Brexit, for once some facts.
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Hargreaves was willing to put his £3 billion up that we, d have a deal a week after leaving (29th March) if we left under no deal. Its over week. I think Hargreaves knows more than you do.
We, d have had a deal by now had it been handled by a business man.
As I explained before, I remain on this thread on this site,in the hope of persuading or encouraging people , like you, of the folly of the Brexit line. Now while you may be impossible to convince, it is possible that there are plenty of viewers of this thread ,who do not post,but who actually read the postings. When they read and discern the difference in intellectual content, between the postings, they may reflect.
There is little value in posting in an Irish or a Scottish hosted site. They already know the truth
Tolerance is not a virtue I might have associated with you.
That is exactly the same crock pot which was sold to the USA people. .. See how that is panning out.
Perhaps by the frightened. I cant see for a moment, and doubt I ever will, how one side removing no deal could possibly help negotiations. It didnt. Perhaps if History gets rewritten there will be a statue.
I wonder how our negotiators would have felt had EU removed no deal. It was utterly stupid.
No it isnt at all. Hargreaves understood EU dont want no deal either. Cooper hadnt the experience or intellect to look at it from both sides.
Yes, it would have been. Would have been hours to get all those Audis, Porsche, VWs etc etc off the docks. Money talks.
There would have had to be some deal made, peerhaps emergency, but things would never been allowed to grind to halt. We were stupid not to be objective.
You really believe this?
I’m not sure if you have a god comeplex, so self unaware you barely exist unless you talk to yourself or just plain dumb.
You sound like that old codger who thought a million people daily were reading his pre dementia ramblings.
You really don’t get the internet do you? You don’t read people’s posts or if you do you forget them a minute later. Think about that. If you. As a self proposed influencer on this forum can’t be bothered to read and remember other people’s views what chance is there for anyone else? And we all know no one is cleverer than you.
the voting public has clearly been sold down the river and betrayed by a bunch of political pygmy MP's who are afraid of missing out on the eu gravy train and have absolutely no confidence in the country or it's abilities. Voting to take no deal off the table has trashed any hopes of us getting anywhere. So I fear it is over for now and we will be back under the control of the eu but in a worse position than before. However I do not think the problem will go away and may well come back to bite the politicians in the backside. I get the feeling that a GE will not be a long time coming and then the chickens may come home to roost
sorry to say. You are failing in your mission to brainwash us
Of course the EU want a Deal,and they constructed one. As was very evident the problem was not the deal, it was the three different equal sized sections in the UK Parliament. The 30% who did not want any deal,the 30% who would accept the deal and the 30% who utterly wanted to remain on the current terms.
No amount of huckster wheeling and dealing would have changed the EUs fundamental position, which was the social cohesion and four freedoms. Was that excessively difficult to understand?. They are as dear to the thinking of the EU ,as KIMs Nuclear weapons are to him.
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Still reciting old tripes?
1. What EU Gravy train will the vast majority of MPs enjoy?
2. Being in the EU is Not a diminishment of the UKs confidence or abilities. .. Perhaps it is the contrary.
3. A bad idea is still a bad idea when voted by 52:48 .,so yes, I can agree that Brexit,even if cancelled will be a running sore in British Politics.
4. Yes, the UK has lost international credibility, not only in its filly faddle over the last 4 months, but dating back 3.5 years. . It may take a decade to recover ,but the first step was taken by the Cooper Act.
5. If the UK public was sold down the river, it was because they were both ignorant and decived. They were ignorant of the structure of UK democracy,which does not do Referendums..you need to have a constitution for that. They were decieved by false advertising, and immoral voter targetting.
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No, the ERG stands for extreme brexit, the form that risks the future of our people.
Those who want brexit to work and protect the livelihood of millions of people, of those who rely on our manufacturing and export services sectors, fight for a soft and responsible brexit with a deal before we leave.
in the last vote, those who did not want any deal consist of 97 conservative MPs. Down from about 150-160.
The next battle is to stop one of them to become our next PM.
But then the UK would not have had sovereignty.! You really do not get the fundamental principle of fellowship. It is an arrangement freely entered into, and freely exited from. While in there are certain mutual benefits,which are not available after exiting
A mistake you continue to make, and indeed a number MPs still refuse to accept is that the deal was done. It was done last November and is the WA . So the Cooper Act was 4 months after the WA.
What has been wasted is time on future trading relationships.
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Ms Cooper is my local MP. A Petition on a local Facebook page has reached 30,000 to
have her deselected. (70% voted to leave)
Her Husband Edd Balls took the voters for granted. He lost his majority at the last election.
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