Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

You, ll be asked to repeat that about a thousand times.

Don't bother it made no sense the first time

 

[oldgroaner]

we don't want paying more taxes.
Brexit promises to bring in smaller state, less spending on charity and benefits. No more money for the EU!
I do want to keep my triple lock on my state pension and cold weather allowance though.

I asked what we can expect, it's no use offering yet another promise that in itself is a double edged sword, cut benefits and watch out for trouble!
No one will personally benefit from any of that, quite the opposite.
In fact we can expect taxes to rise sharply

 

[oyster]

https://www.indy100.com/article/nigel-farage-brexit-leave-march-20-million-bbc-radio-4-8835046

The Brexit Party MEP was asked by presenter Mishal Husain how many people he believed would be at the march when it came to a conclusion next weekend.

I don't know. In spirit, I should think about 20 million right now. Something like that.​

It doesn't really matter does it. Its the symbolism of it that matters.​

What symbolism comes from:
4,000,239 signatures ?

 

[Woosh]

May will not back down, she, ll lose vote on 10th...Guess what then...
Train heading for broken rail, nobody on brakes.

Apparently, TM allows MPs to vote for customs union next week. I expect the house will approve it.
The race will be then between Common Market 2.0 and revoking A50.

 

[Woosh]

What symbolism comes from:
4,000,239 signatures ?

that's the size of the swing if there is another referendum.
the leavers overdid it and started remainers' revolt.
the conservatives lose grip on power.

 

[oldgroaner]

What symbolism comes from:
4,000,239 signatures ?

If we add the Remainer vote from the referendum to that curiously the figure matches the one Farage bandied about!

 

[daveboy]

I watch them on TV and frankly they bend over backwards to try to help us, there is no way they show hate, simply look after the other members.
What is wrong about that? we repeatedly lie to them and keep changing our minds,no hate there just impatience
Why do leave supporters keep trotting out the same old paranoid lies?
the only people dealing in hate are the leave campaign, that is what it is based on.
Oh I get it all right, it's actually you that hate the EU (are you are paid to do that?)
Just what do you actually want out of?
Even more pertinent what do your handlers want you to get us into?
You have evaded the question yet again
What is in it for us?
You still don't get it, do you? your maunderings cut no ice when you have nothing positive to offer to replace what we already have.
You offer nothing except pointless suffering for the people of this country , so what is your agenda, who or what are you working for?

You are a very poor judge of character....Your poor judgement of the Eu is only beaten by your
poor judgement of me.
I don't work for anybody I am a retired coal miner and if you can't see the contempt for
us in the EU you need to go to specsavers.

 

[Zlatan]

You still don't get it.
The Eu hate us (just watch them on the TV)
I want out.
Whatever the cost (within reason, No world war 3)

You know how when you look into water on a sunny day and all you see is glare, then you pop on a decent pair of polaroids and suddenly you can see everything. The water takes on a new clarity. You can get same effect on here, just hit ignore button for OG, I, d guess your comments have instigated quite a bit of glare from him.
Its a whole new world... Without OG. Pleasant, polite, discussion without insult... Even a touch of humour and banter..
Honestly Dave, it works.
Its quite possible to have adult disagreements with all others. Not OG I, m afraid.

 

[Woosh]

Scrap brexit until we have a plan that is acceptable to parliament and also takes account of the 16 million who voted against Brexit.

the referendum is once in 50 years. I think we just take Common Market 2.0 (aka EFTA membership).

 

[Zlatan]

Apparently, TM allows MPs to vote for customs union next week. I expect the house will approve it.
The race will be then between Common Market 2.0 and revoking A50.

We will see. Not sure how they will agree on anything and if they do will EU accept it at this stage. They will have to make more concessions to do so, which wont be easy with ERG etc etc.

 

[oldgroaner]

You are a very poor judge of character....Your poor judgement of the Eu is only beaten by your
poor judgement of me.
I don't work for anybody I am a retired coal miner and if you can't see the contempt for
us in the EU you need to go to specsavers.

Then you have no excuse for coming out with the tripe you do.
You should have seen through the lies and deceit , my judgement of you is unfortunately accurate, you should know better than to be taken in, couldn't you see what the people behind Brexit were after, and where this was bound to go right from the beginning?
Why on earth does a coalminer put his trust in the Conservative government?
That takes a lot of explaining,

 

[jonathan.agnew]

You are a very poor judge of character....Your poor judgement of the Eu is only beaten by your
poor judgement of me.
I don't work for anybody I am a retired coal miner and if you can't see the contempt for
us in the EU you need to go to specsavers.

You need to get out more. Not to europe. Just down the street to the nearest cafe or polish shop. Perhaps this launches you into another much more shared world. I work a great deal with other europeans. Their lovely. The metaphor about glare and shades is deeply ironic. Its leavers who are blinded by xenophobia, hatred. Life really works a great deal better when one shares it with others.

 

[oldgroaner]

You know how when you look into water on a sunny day and all you see is glare, then you pop on a decent pair of polaroids and suddenly you can see everything. The water takes on a new clarity. You can get same effect on here, just hit ignore button for OG, I, d guess your comments have instigated quite a bit of glare from him.
Its a whole new world... Without OG. Pleasant, polite, discussion without insult... Even a touch of humour and banter..
Honestly Dave, it works.
Its quite possible to have adult disagreements with all others. Not OG I, m afraid.

Once again another gratuitous attack from the Forger, and you still post nonsense too
Interesting idea that ,"having an adult disagreement" you should try it some time

 

[Woosh]

We will see. Not sure how they will agree on anything and if they do will EU accept it at this stage. They will have to make more concessions to do so, which wont be easy with ERG etc etc.

that choice is ours to make, the EU has no hand in it. EU27 will ratify the WA treaty if we vote for it, nothing to do with the political declaration.
The fight is entirely inside the conservative party and the DUP.
Labour is pro Common Market 2.0.
TM allows a vote on customs union, that means she is open to accept JC's offer.

 

[daveboy]

Then you have no excuse for coming out with the tripe you do.
You should have seen through the lies and deceit , my judgement of you is unfortunately accurate, you should know better than to be taken in, couldn't you see what the people behind Brexit were after, and where this was bound to go right from the beginning?
Why on earth does a coalminer put his trust in the Conservative government?
That takes a lot of explaining,

I don't put my trust in the Tory Government, I expect them to get voted out at the next election.
Me and Jeremy are both Labour supporters and want out of the EU.
I wasn't taken in by lies and deceit because they were not my reasons for voting out.
I will get the chance to vote in the Government I want every 5 years.
This was the only chance I got to vote out of The EU.

 

[oldgroaner]

I don't put my trust in the Tory Government, I expect them to get voted out at the next election.
Me and Jeremy are both Labour supporters and want out of the EU.
I wasn't taken in by lies and deceit because they were not my reasons for voting out.
I will get the chance to vote in the Government I want every 5 years.
This was the only chance I got to vote out of The EU.

But why? come on now,lets hear why.
What has the EU done you don't approve of?
After all you also get the chance to vote for MEPs too remember.

 

[daveboy]

But why? come on now,lets hear why.
What has the EU done you don't approve of?
After all you also get the chance to vote for MEPs too remember.

You still don't get it.
The Eu hate us (just watch them on the TV)
I want out.
Whatever the cost (within reason, No world war 3)

Zlatan said I would have to repeat it a thousand times.....only 999 to go

 

[Fingers]

You know how when you look into water on a sunny day and all you see is glare, then you pop on a decent pair of polaroids and suddenly you can see everything. The water takes on a new clarity. You can get same effect on here, just hit ignore button for OG, I, d guess your comments have instigated quite a bit of glare from him.
Its a whole new world... Without OG. Pleasant, polite, discussion without insult... Even a touch of humour and banter..
Honestly Dave, it works.
Its quite possible to have adult disagreements with all others. Not OG I, m afraid.

Why didn’t I realise this before? I’m putting him on ignore. I won’t be missing anything. I barely read his nonsense and insults anyway.

Clicky on ignore.

Good advice.

 

[Woosh]

After all you also get the chance to vote for MEPs too remember.

Our choice of the President of the European Council, the President of the Commission and the President of the ECB didn't get passed.
If they were all Brits, maybe we'd want to stay.

 

[Danidl]

Why, when you were promised so very much more?
You must be very easily pleased with a few thrown crumbs, rather like a starving sparrow.
And how about answering the question , what's in it for the rest of us?
You have your little wet dream of sovereignty, where are our Unicorns , blue skies better pay and jobs, and better times we were promised?

I can answer the unicorn part of the question.... There are unicorns on the British seal on the front of the new Passport.