Brexit, for once some facts.
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They are thinking that the French will have a go slow post Brexit.
Probably, that is what the French do. But Raab says we can send the ferries to other ports,aside from the distance involved these ferries are made to fit the dock they arrive at,it takes weeks to modify the docks....Raab do your homework before opening mouth.
We had a meeting today with local businesses ,all different ,but we all agreed that sales are the worst any of us have experienced...if Hammond is relying on a big tax take,he has a shock coming...sorry I forgot austerity is over,hehe.!!!
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Probably, that is what the French do. But Raab says we can send the ferries to other ports,aside from the distance involved these ferries are made to fit the dock they arrive at,it takes weeks to modify the docks....Raab do your homework before opening mouth.
We had a meeting today with local businesses ,all different ,but we all agreed that sales are the worst any of us have experienced...if Hammond is relying on a big tax take,he has a shock coming...sorry I forgot austerity is over,hehe.!!!
KudosDave
Raab is an idiot.
At one time TM found him objectionable - in 2011:
Theresa May attacks Tory MP Dominic Raab over 'feminist bigots' remark
‘Labelling feminists as obnoxious bigots is not the way forward,’ home secretary tells Raab
Theresa May today slapped down a backbench Tory MP who called feminists “obnoxious bigots”, telling him his comments were “not the way forward” if he wanted to tackle sexism in the workplace.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jan/27/theresa-may-attacks-dominc-raab-feminist
Interesting that he says "I've got a Brazilian wife" which many others might have phrased as "my wife is Brazilian" rather than sounding like a brag.
Still an idiot.
I have long hated the hour change. For a few weeks it makes a small difference, then it is dark (or light) at both ends of the day anyway. And I feel it takes about two weeks to adjust at each change.
So I am perfectly happy with the idea of abandoning the hour change. However, if we do change, let it be co-ordinated. (Swiss railways had a nightmare before the change was co-ordinated with it changing at different times on its many borders.)
I have a nasty feeling it could become another brexit issue - UK demands the right to continue messing with the hour even if the EU abandons it on good scientific grounds!
When do the clocks go back and could 2018 be the last time they change?
EU countries could ditch practice as research finds effects of changing time are worse than previously thought
It’s that joyous time of the year when pretty much everybody in the UK gets an extra hour in bed, as the clocks go back at 2am on Sunday 28 October with the end of British summer time. Joyous, of course, unless you are parent of small children, own pets, are working a night-shift over the weekend, or don’t like the trade of of earlier sunsets for a bit more morning light.
2018 may mark one of the final times that the continent of Europe changes the clocks back in unison with the UK – or indeed at all, as moves are afoot to abolish daylight saving time in the EU.
Since 2002, EU Directive 2000/84/EC has regulated the time change between winter and summer time in the EU, stating that the last weekend in March and the last weekend in October should be the switchover dates. But a 2017 report by the European parliament into the practice has led to the European parliament voting that daylight savings time arrangement be reconsidered, allowing member states to opt out of changing their clocks. Some non-EU European countries, like Russia, Turkey, Belarus and Iceland, have already abandoned the practice.
But scientists and politicians have become increasingly worried on the impact it has on the human sleep cycle. In 2016 an investigation by the German Bundestag concluded that “the process of adaptation to the time change might be more difficult for some people than has been assumed in earlier years”.
Researchers had previously thought that the clock change, particularly in spring, caused people to suffer minor jet-lag style symptoms for a couple of days after the change. They now think, according to the Bundestag report, that the effects can last up to four weeks, and that “for some people the process of adaptation itself takes place only insufficiently or not at all”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/when-do-the-clocks-go-back-2018-last-time-they-change
So I am perfectly happy with the idea of abandoning the hour change. However, if we do change, let it be co-ordinated. (Swiss railways had a nightmare before the change was co-ordinated with it changing at different times on its many borders.)
I have a nasty feeling it could become another brexit issue - UK demands the right to continue messing with the hour even if the EU abandons it on good scientific grounds!
When do the clocks go back and could 2018 be the last time they change?
EU countries could ditch practice as research finds effects of changing time are worse than previously thought
It’s that joyous time of the year when pretty much everybody in the UK gets an extra hour in bed, as the clocks go back at 2am on Sunday 28 October with the end of British summer time. Joyous, of course, unless you are parent of small children, own pets, are working a night-shift over the weekend, or don’t like the trade of of earlier sunsets for a bit more morning light.
2018 may mark one of the final times that the continent of Europe changes the clocks back in unison with the UK – or indeed at all, as moves are afoot to abolish daylight saving time in the EU.
Since 2002, EU Directive 2000/84/EC has regulated the time change between winter and summer time in the EU, stating that the last weekend in March and the last weekend in October should be the switchover dates. But a 2017 report by the European parliament into the practice has led to the European parliament voting that daylight savings time arrangement be reconsidered, allowing member states to opt out of changing their clocks. Some non-EU European countries, like Russia, Turkey, Belarus and Iceland, have already abandoned the practice.
But scientists and politicians have become increasingly worried on the impact it has on the human sleep cycle. In 2016 an investigation by the German Bundestag concluded that “the process of adaptation to the time change might be more difficult for some people than has been assumed in earlier years”.
Researchers had previously thought that the clock change, particularly in spring, caused people to suffer minor jet-lag style symptoms for a couple of days after the change. They now think, according to the Bundestag report, that the effects can last up to four weeks, and that “for some people the process of adaptation itself takes place only insufficiently or not at all”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/when-do-the-clocks-go-back-2018-last-time-they-change
Oyster, I find myself in agreement with you. One of the arguments trotted out is that children on their way to school will be knocked down,with the assumption it won't happen in the evening. I believe that there is a better chance and lower potential mortality, when people are awake in the morning,than when returning tired at night.
Regardless of the Brexit outcome, it would be wise to make plans which remove as much reliance on the French as possible. As a nation, they are an oily & treacherous collection of turncoats with a deep rooted sense of national shame. This makes it impossible to rely on them under any circumstances. I think it is the shame and embarrassment they feel for their behaviour over the past 100 years which makes them so untrustworthy. They have twice surrendered their nation to aggression, with hardly any resistance, and been complicit in helping their masters, the invading German army, to round up and send their own French Jewish citizens to a certain death. Fast forward a few decades and it’s now like the French posses a collective national “little man syndrome” which sees them trying to assert themselves through acts of treachery, duplicity and spitefulness. A bad lot to place trust in.
In my view, any such benefit is largely overtaken simply by even early sunrise and later sunset quite shortly after the spring clock change. In summer it is so very often still light at bed-time and dawn occurs long before I want to get up!
It's worse for Dyslexic men....their cocks go black.
More EU nonsense. GMT & BST works perfectly well. Long summer evenings are splendid and I really look forward to them.
I can’t see how it will result in more people getting knocked over if we retain the clock change. Even if it does, they must be dickheads, so it’s just a case of natural selection. Let’s leave well alone and stop meddling.
Sometimes you wander a long way from reality.
The French didn't surrender in the First World war, did they? in fact they took far greater casualties than we did, to wit
French killed and MIA 1,150,000
British 744,000
And I would ask you to think carefully before making sweeping comments like this
"As a nation, they are an oily & treacherous collection of turncoats with a deep rooted sense of national shame. This makes it impossible to rely on them under any circumstances.."
Strange we did that during the first World War, or we would have been quickly beaten, and to fight a rearguard action when we retreated to Dunkirk in the Second World War,or we would never have got away with it.
I would point out that the only way it would seem to me we differ in many respects from that description being applied to us is simply this.
We have no sense of National Shame whatsoever, and we bloody well should have for past misdeeds, and the way we treat our own people when they are weak and vulnerable.
Let's face it you are only upset with them because they won't let us bully them aren't you?
I hesitate ro use the overrated word Racist, but it does seem suitable in this context.
Well ending the GMT BST clock change is nonsense. If we stuck to GMT it would be light at 02:30 hrs in the morning and dark at 20:30 hrs during June. What use is that? The change is necessary because of where the country happens to be located on the surface of the planet. It’s pointless interference by the EU in specific national issues such as GMT which does them no favours in terms of image.Did you wake up feeling diplomatic this morning?
I would expect no other response from a person burdened with limited intelligence and restricted analytical capability. You have not disappointed.
Now go and have a lie down. I think you may be getting a bit overexcited.
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As another person of limited intelligence allow me to disagree with you, the only difference between you and I is that I am aware of my limitations, and so try to avoid making such ill advised remarks.
I take sometimes the ferries from Portsmouth to Ouistreham. The queue at the Ouistreham exit is typically between 1 hour and 1 and a half. That's because there are only a few arrivals in the day.