Let's just reflect for a moment on the crazy world we inhabit in this United Kingdom:
Then this:
Weird!
Tom
Then this:
Weird!
Tom
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Yes indeed! George Orwell was a very perspicacious writer all those years ago - I presume you have read his works.
These Brexiteers are interesting folk
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Dyson will manufacture its new electric car at a plant in Singapore, it announced on Tuesday.
Founder of the British company James Dyson – one of the highest-profile backers of Brexit – has repeatedly highlighted the potential benefits to UK companies of leaving the EU.
The firm insisted the choice of location was not related to Brexit but had been a “complex” one based on “supply chains, access to markets and the availability of the expertise”.
A new Dictionary definition for Brexit
Brexit means Businesses Exiting Britain
Doesn't that just sing?
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Dyson will manufacture its new electric car at a plant in Singapore, it announced on Tuesday.
Founder of the British company James Dyson – one of the highest-profile backers of Brexit – has repeatedly highlighted the potential benefits to UK companies of leaving the EU.
The firm insisted the choice of location was not related to Brexit but had been a “complex” one based on “supply chains, access to markets and the availability of the expertise”.
A new Dictionary definition for Brexit
Brexit means Businesses Exiting Britain
Doesn't that just sing?
It's getting to the stage now on here where if you blink you miss something!Do try and keep up OG! I refer you to post #37358.
Tom
Do you believe the pharma industry - or the government?
Patients 'may need to stockpile own drugs if no-deal Brexit looms'
Pharma industry bodies insist government contingency plans are insufficient
Peter Walker Political correspondent
Around 50% of medical supplies currently in UK depots have come through the EU, according to the Healthcare Distributors Association. Photograph: Reuters
Patients should consider stockpiling their own drugs if it looks likely the UK will leave the EU with no deal, the pharmaceuticals industry has said, telling MPs that such a scenario could be “catastrophic” for medicine supplies and necessitate emergency powers.
Giving evidence to the Commons health committee about the possible impact of a no-deal departure on the sector, representatives from groups representing drugs producers and distributors said there was an urgent need for a Brexit agreement.
Current government contingency plans for suppliers to stockpile several weeks of drugs were insufficient, said Mike Thompson, the head of the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry, noting that there were no facilities at ports to store drugs at low temperatures in the event of delays.
“I think we also need to be honest with government and with parliament to say that there are more things that need to be done in a no deal and I think we’ve got to the stage of recognising that stockpiling won’t be enough and we need to put in the next phase of plans,” he said.
Martin Sawer, who leads the Healthcare Distributors Association, which represents the pharmaceutical supply chain, said patients might need to think about ensuring they had enough of their own stocks.
“We need politicians to understand that there could be consequences of a no-deal [Brexit], and those are the consequences,” he said. “We’re not suggesting anyone needs to stockpile outside of the supply chain yet, but come January that might be a different picture.
“As businesses in the supply chain, together with the government and the NHS, we have to communicate what needs to be done. We are, we believe, going to be in a difficult situation if there is not a deal by Christmas.”
Medicines supplies work to a highly sophisticated timetable, generally with twice-a-day deliveries and warehouses keeping only two or three weeks of stock, Sawer said.
“What keeps us awake at night is the uncertainty of no deal,” he said. “On average, 50% of the medicines in our depots have been through the EU before they get to the UK warehouses. And this whole integrated supply chain that we rely on was clearly set up after we joined the EU.
“It would be a catastrophic time, a ‘no deal’, for medicines supply. I’m not pulling any punches. I think we have to think of emergency powers.”
These powers, the committee was told, could include pharmacists being permitted to replace one type of drug with another without first getting the approval of a patient’s GP.
The health secretary, Matt Hancock, later told the committee he was not considering such powers. “That isn’t something that I’m aware of,” he said, insisting supplies should be maintained even in a no-deal Brexit.
“We are confident that if everybody does what they need to do, then we will have the unhindered supply,” he said.
“I am satisfied that everybody currently is doing what they need to do. Of course, there’s a huge amount more effort that’s needed between now and the end of March, should we be in a no-deal scenario, but I’m confident we can get there.”
Chris Wormald, the chief civil servant in Hancock’s department, said he agreed with this assessment but that it depended also on how France might respond with border checks in a no deal situation “which is obviously something that we don’t control”.
He said: “I’m confident that the government is doing all the right things, and if everyone does what they’re supposed to do, everything will work. That includes the uncertainty around how the French react.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/23/brexit-patients-may-need-own-drug-stockpiles-pharma-execs-tell-commons-committee
Or
Don't hoard medicines for Brexit, health secretary says
Matt Hancock writes to doctors and pharmacies amid fears patients might stock up in panic
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/23/dont-hoard-medicines-for-brexit-health-secretary-says
Patients 'may need to stockpile own drugs if no-deal Brexit looms'
Pharma industry bodies insist government contingency plans are insufficient
Peter Walker Political correspondent
Around 50% of medical supplies currently in UK depots have come through the EU, according to the Healthcare Distributors Association. Photograph: Reuters
Patients should consider stockpiling their own drugs if it looks likely the UK will leave the EU with no deal, the pharmaceuticals industry has said, telling MPs that such a scenario could be “catastrophic” for medicine supplies and necessitate emergency powers.
Giving evidence to the Commons health committee about the possible impact of a no-deal departure on the sector, representatives from groups representing drugs producers and distributors said there was an urgent need for a Brexit agreement.
Current government contingency plans for suppliers to stockpile several weeks of drugs were insufficient, said Mike Thompson, the head of the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry, noting that there were no facilities at ports to store drugs at low temperatures in the event of delays.
“I think we also need to be honest with government and with parliament to say that there are more things that need to be done in a no deal and I think we’ve got to the stage of recognising that stockpiling won’t be enough and we need to put in the next phase of plans,” he said.
Martin Sawer, who leads the Healthcare Distributors Association, which represents the pharmaceutical supply chain, said patients might need to think about ensuring they had enough of their own stocks.
“We need politicians to understand that there could be consequences of a no-deal [Brexit], and those are the consequences,” he said. “We’re not suggesting anyone needs to stockpile outside of the supply chain yet, but come January that might be a different picture.
“As businesses in the supply chain, together with the government and the NHS, we have to communicate what needs to be done. We are, we believe, going to be in a difficult situation if there is not a deal by Christmas.”
Medicines supplies work to a highly sophisticated timetable, generally with twice-a-day deliveries and warehouses keeping only two or three weeks of stock, Sawer said.
“What keeps us awake at night is the uncertainty of no deal,” he said. “On average, 50% of the medicines in our depots have been through the EU before they get to the UK warehouses. And this whole integrated supply chain that we rely on was clearly set up after we joined the EU.
“It would be a catastrophic time, a ‘no deal’, for medicines supply. I’m not pulling any punches. I think we have to think of emergency powers.”
These powers, the committee was told, could include pharmacists being permitted to replace one type of drug with another without first getting the approval of a patient’s GP.
The health secretary, Matt Hancock, later told the committee he was not considering such powers. “That isn’t something that I’m aware of,” he said, insisting supplies should be maintained even in a no-deal Brexit.
“We are confident that if everybody does what they need to do, then we will have the unhindered supply,” he said.
“I am satisfied that everybody currently is doing what they need to do. Of course, there’s a huge amount more effort that’s needed between now and the end of March, should we be in a no-deal scenario, but I’m confident we can get there.”
Chris Wormald, the chief civil servant in Hancock’s department, said he agreed with this assessment but that it depended also on how France might respond with border checks in a no deal situation “which is obviously something that we don’t control”.
He said: “I’m confident that the government is doing all the right things, and if everyone does what they’re supposed to do, everything will work. That includes the uncertainty around how the French react.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/23/brexit-patients-may-need-own-drug-stockpiles-pharma-execs-tell-commons-committee
Or
Don't hoard medicines for Brexit, health secretary says
Matt Hancock writes to doctors and pharmacies amid fears patients might stock up in panic
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/23/dont-hoard-medicines-for-brexit-health-secretary-says
What a staggering failure to appreciate the impact of brexit.
BBC News about changing shipping routes to avoid blockages. Yes - let the ferries go to different ports. Instead of Calais, go to, umm, somewhere else. Rotterdam or anywhere, Liverpool or Rome. Who cares that the lorries they are taking don't want to go there? That the lorries they want to bring back aren't there to be picked up?
And if the blockages are in the UK, what are they going to do? Oh! Kent is full, let's see if we can dock in Shoreham? Or Portsmouth?
We are possibly just five months away and they still seem not to have addressed absolute fundamentals.
And I certainly wouldn't like to be a sheep farmer, trying to decide how to manage my flocks.
BBC News about changing shipping routes to avoid blockages. Yes - let the ferries go to different ports. Instead of Calais, go to, umm, somewhere else. Rotterdam or anywhere, Liverpool or Rome. Who cares that the lorries they are taking don't want to go there? That the lorries they want to bring back aren't there to be picked up?
And if the blockages are in the UK, what are they going to do? Oh! Kent is full, let's see if we can dock in Shoreham? Or Portsmouth?
We are possibly just five months away and they still seem not to have addressed absolute fundamentals.
And I certainly wouldn't like to be a sheep farmer, trying to decide how to manage my flocks.
That came from Rees-Mogg,he replied at an interview,in answer to a question about disruption at Dover caused by French customs delays.He suggested that the ferries can go to Rotterdam.
What an idiot....the EU have been solid in their unity,surely he realises that the French might talk to the Dutch. Anyway,it would need 100 plus ferry boats to cover the 14 hour trip to Rotterdam,in contrast to 1 hour Dover to Calais.
KudosDave
From the Telegraph this morning
The British #MeToo scandal which cannot be revealed
A leading businessman has been granted an injunction against The Telegraph to prevent this newspaper revealing alleged sexual harassment and racial abuse of staff.
The accusations against the businessman, who cannot be identified, would be sure to reignite the #MeToo movement against the mistreatment of women, minorities and others by powerful employers.
This is of course a terrible thing and abuse of the rights of a "Free Press"
How ironic that they object to being told
What they Can't do
But are quite happy to be told
What they Must Do!
On the other hand is the far bigger problem that this same "Free Press" is bought and paid for to print lies and slant the news on a permanent every day basis.
By all means let us have a "Free Press" and to do that it has to be INDEPENDENT of PAYMASTERS.
Amazing what control over their direction money has.
The British #MeToo scandal which cannot be revealed
A leading businessman has been granted an injunction against The Telegraph to prevent this newspaper revealing alleged sexual harassment and racial abuse of staff.
The accusations against the businessman, who cannot be identified, would be sure to reignite the #MeToo movement against the mistreatment of women, minorities and others by powerful employers.
This is of course a terrible thing and abuse of the rights of a "Free Press"
How ironic that they object to being told
What they Can't do
But are quite happy to be told
What they Must Do!
On the other hand is the far bigger problem that this same "Free Press" is bought and paid for to print lies and slant the news on a permanent every day basis.
By all means let us have a "Free Press" and to do that it has to be INDEPENDENT of PAYMASTERS.
Amazing what control over their direction money has.
Do you know who?
(Obviously not expecting you to name him here. It would be interesting, though, if the name appeared on a foreign website.)
And in the Independent
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It's too late to prepare UK borders for no-deal Brexit, National Audit Office tells Theresa May
Failure to plan will open up 'weaknesses' which 'organised criminals and others are likely to be quick to exploit' – if UK crashes out of the EU
Not ready? us?
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It's too late to prepare UK borders for no-deal Brexit, National Audit Office tells Theresa May
Failure to plan will open up 'weaknesses' which 'organised criminals and others are likely to be quick to exploit' – if UK crashes out of the EU
Not ready? us?
too late,And in the Independent
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It's too late to prepare UK borders for no-deal Brexit, National Audit Office tells Theresa May
Failure to plan will open up 'weaknesses' which 'organised criminals and others are likely to be quick to exploit' – if UK crashes out of the EU
Not ready? us?
she cried, as she waved her wooden leg.
Or, as
Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias sang:
Lose a leg, lose a leg, lose a leg.
Too late she cried.
Only this this so far courtesy of twitter
"Jess Philips to name sex attack gagging order businessman under parliamentary privilege this morning after leaks in Scotland