Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldtom]

Millions of people in the UK and across the rest of Europe are at financial risk because of Brexit, new research from financial services industry body TheCityUK has revealed

Perhaps they are just being alarmist but I'd guess there is much truth in their assessment.

Key to Britain's survival prospects has to be the passporting arrangements that facilitate the casino banking shysters working in the major financial institutions in the City and at Canary Wharf. If their entitlement is lost as a result of 'Brexit', the resultant financial famine could prove ruinous for the whole of the UK, the City of London having supplied such a great contribution to the national coffers for so many years.

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

Jeremy Corbyn states he is still waiting for an answer. I think Mrs May's performance at the dispatch box is answer sufficient!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156530012848872

Tom

First time I've seen Boris blush [emoji16]

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[Woosh]

Peston tweeted this today

https://www.facebook.com/pestonitv/posts/2078869192437815

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After her disastrous general election of 2017, she is being judged on one thing and one thing only: whether she can negotiate an adequate exit from the EU.

No deal would for her be the mother of all failures (and let’s not get into what it would mean for the rest of us). So if that was what she brought back from Brussels to London, she would be toast, history, caput.

The idea therefore that Grieve and co are trying to put her in a straitjacket is a joke - because she has already been fitted for it, and she’s wearing it for all to see.

One respondent tweeted:

Never understood May's argument that a no deal Brexit a threat to the EU?! "Give me what I want or I'll smash the country? Then you'll be sorry ..."

 

[Woosh]

the shape of brexit according to Guy Verhofstadt would be an association agreement, a new framework to avoid individual agreements in a variety of areas.
It will take between one and two decades to ratify.

TM & JC will be long gone before the new treaty is ratified.

 

[flecc]

the shape of brexit according to Guy Verhofstadt would be an association agreement, a new framework to avoid individual agreements in a variety of areas.
It will take between one and two decades to ratify.

TM & JC will be long gone before the new treaty is ratified.

Meanwhile we stay in?

Works for me.
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[Woosh]

we transit. We satisfy the will of half the people.

 

[flecc]

we transit. We satisfy the will of half the people.

Which surely is staying in for at least one decade, all present conditions continuing.

I think the will to leave would dissolve.
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[Woosh]

I think the will to leave would dissolve.

I don't know. We have an ambivalent attitude toward the EU for a long time.
Yesterday, we were discussing about sending batteries by couriers who are changing their terms to restrict Lithium batteries to 300WH, which is smaller than our least capacity batteries. We'd need additional insurance to cover batteries while transiting in their warehouses regardless of the circumstances. The EU directive about transport of dangerous goods by roads (including Lithium batteries, DG9) run at over 1,200 pages. There is clearly a need for a more practical/flexible approach than the current arrangement where UK government tends to stick to the letter.

 

[flecc]

I don't know. We have an ambivalent attitude toward the EU for a long time.
Yesterday, we were discussing about sending batteries by couriers who are changing their terms to restrict Lithium batteries to 300WH, which is smaller than our least capacity batteries. We'd need additional insurance to cover batteries while transiting in their warehouses regardless of the circumstances. The EU directive about transport of dangerous goods by roads (including Lithium batteries, DG9) run at over 1,200 pages. There is clearly a need for a more practical/flexible approach than the current arrangement where UK government tends to stick to the letter.

A bit daft when you think that with the new Nissan Leaf that I'm waiting for, I'll be able to drive its 40,000 Wh battery down to Dover and then go by ship or Eurotunnel train to France, all without filling in any special document!
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[Woosh]

A bit daft when you think that with the new Nissan Leaf that I'm waiting for, I'll be able to drive its 40,000 Wh battery down to Dover and then go by ship or Eurotunnel train to France, all without filling in any special document!
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the problem is in the way an e-bike battery case is defined. Is the battery case a piece of equipment that contains the battery? If it is, then you don't need to affix the DG9 label on the carton. If it isn't then you have to stick the DG9 "Caution! Lithium battery" label. That is independent from extra insurance.
Until now, we always stick the DG9 label on the carton if we send a battery without a bike. Now, the courier's driver will stick some other label over the Lithium battery label to avoid the hassle when he brings the carton back to his warehouse.

 

[Woosh]

who won this afternoon at the HoC?
from Nicky Morgan, one of the remainer tory MPs about Grieve 2:

"it is the Speaker who determines whether a motion is expressed in neutral terms - on this basis Parliament’s vote is meaningful."

So who has yielded more? TM or the rebels?

I suppose it's nil - nil, they all want to kick every can down the road.

 

[flecc]

the problem is in the way an e-bike battery case is defined. Is the battery case a piece of equipment that contains the battery? If it is, then you don't need to affix the DG9 label on the carton. If it isn't then you have to stick the DG9 "Caution! Lithium battery" label. That is independent from extra insurance.
Until now, we always stick the DG9 label on the carton if we send a battery without a bike. Now, the courier's driver will stick some other label over the Lithium battery label to avoid the hassle when he brings the carton back to his warehouse.

Thanks for the information. Does make one think though, 300 Wh limit against e-car's freedom to travel anywhere with thousands of watt hours.

Next year's Leaf is to have a 63,000 Wh battery, 210 times that limit.
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[Woosh]

It's all started when couriers have so much work that they are no longer interested in taking anything with a Dangerous Goods label.
it's not realistic to impose 300WH limit though, 600WH may be but 300WH is just too little for most e-bike batteries. The increased risk between 100WH (the threshold where DG9 label may be omitted) and 600WH for road transport is not much.

 

[oldgroaner]

Which surely is staying in for at least one decade, all present conditions continuing.

I think the will to leave would dissolve.
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I think you mean the "Will to Live" surely.

 

[oldgroaner]

Meanwhile we stay in?

Works for me.
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Oh no, not another "Special Relationship?"
We have just stopped paying Alimony on the last one!

 

[Woosh]

Oh no, not another "Special Relationship?"
We have just stopped paying Alimony on the last one!

oh yes, it is.
Divorce is more difficult if your wife is a Catholic.

 

[oldgroaner]

BBC Politics @BBCPolitics


“Which taxes are going up?” @jeremycorbyn asks @theresa_may about funding for the health service #pmqs https://bbc.in/2JQqTGh

12:13 PM - Jun 20, 2018

and then


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“Her figures are so dodgy they belong on the side of a bus” @jeremycorbyn to @theresa_may on health spending pledges #pmqs https://bbc.in/2JQqTGh

12:19 PM - Jun 20, 2018

Oh Yes!

 

[oldgroaner]

oh yes, it is.
Divorce is more difficult if your wife is a Catholic.

But not so difficult as it would be if her Father is a Russian Mafia Don

 

[Woosh]

But not so difficult as it would be if her Father is a Russian Mafia Don

if he were, then I am sure you are not going to reproduce!

 

[flecc]

Divorce is more difficult if your wife is a Catholic.

Walk away without a deal.
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