Bike park wales extra £7 for e-bikes.

[Mal69]

This.
Come on its hardly expensive anyway, just another case of idiots moaning over nothing.

So your fellow E-Bike users are now idiots are they?

Nice, I figured we could all agree or disagree without the name calling, I guess you figure otherwise!

 

[Volusia25]

So your fellow E-Bike users are now idiots are they?

Are all Ebike users moaning over it?

 

[Mal69]

Are all Ebike users moaning over it?

I thought we were having a discussion and putting our points across, if that is considered moaning then you have a strange view of the place.

 

[STEVEMANFA]

So glad I live in the Forest of Dean, it's all free here.

 

[LeighPing]

Don't argue, just vote here. Click to vote please.

 

[basicasic]

This.
Come on its hardly expensive anyway, just another case of idiots moaning over nothing.

Well earlier on in the thread you were arguing it was weight that was the reason for increased damage and now you've switched to the argument that its extra runs that increase damage.

If the basis for the increase in price for ebikes is based on solid research and evidence then they should publish the figures to justify the increase. eg if their extensive investigation discovered ebikes did 50% more runs on average than a normal bike in a session then they would have good grounds for an appropriate increase.

The fact that they have 'adjusted' the price for ebikes from £15 to £12 suggests to me that haven't done any research at all and are just plucking figures out of their a***s .

And whether it's 'hardly expensive' is not the point. It's discrimination for no justifiable reason with no evidence to back it up. It's a cash grab by greedy park owners.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

I do not buy that argument, what type of person buys an E-Bike, a person who needs a little assistance with cycling, I have nerve damage in my legs and hands, that's why I use an E-Bike now, I think you will do more or equal damage if you are a fitter person roaring down the hills on a normal bike.

Point is, this is about profit, not about facts, if a trail is going to be damaged it's likely to be damaged by both types of bike so charge the same for both types of bike, we already have a divide between bikers, this just deepens the divide and is unhealthy and shouldn't be encouraged.

Your missing the point of eBikes to many many people. People buying eMTB to ride at Bike Park Wales are doing it so they can use their bike to ride up instead of paying for the uplift, they will be considerably quicker than they are on normal bikes up the hill and not use as much energy, therefore they'll do more downhill runs on a heavier bike.

From personal experience at riding eBikes at these sort of places I get about 3 x as much riding in compared to me on a normal bike. This is why many people are buying eBikes... they = more riding in the same amount of time, or more fun bikes for the same amount of energy.