Bike for heavy user

Trevormonty · Jun 16, 2018

Visit a few shops get some expert advice and most importantly do some test rides up steep hills.

Woosh · Jun 16, 2018

Fat Rat said:
I understand jumping but you can do a lot of off road riding without leaving the ground by much
Also a fat bikes primary design is off roading Because there pretty rubbish on road ,
Im not trying to be awkward here but i dont get the warranty thing at all
Having skewers and not maxle axles is not a reason ,mtbs have been using skewers a lot longer than maxles
Is it your suppliers warranty that excludes off roading or your warranty ?

it's our standard warranty terms. They exclude off-roading.
James started the thread, looking simply for a bike capable of dealing with steep hills (Leigh on Sea has a few because of the cliff) and his weight.
I recommended the Big Bear because that's the bike for his weight.
After a few exchanges, James mentioned off roading.
The Big Bear has a front geared hub motor, totally unsuitable for anything off the tarmac.
I stupidly said the Warrior can do off-roading, not thinking about the Olympic trail in Hadleigh and the warranty. I only remembered these things when James quizzed me about warranty.

soundwave · Jun 16, 2018

the waight limit will be on the wheels as they are what is going to take the hits at the end of the day along with the fork and rear sus.

cheap ones of all 3 are not meant for high mileage off road so fine to plod about down the canal path and these bike are 2x plus the waight of a normal bike and even they have throu axles on the forks these days even road bikes have them now and disc rotors.

Fat Rat · Jun 16, 2018

soundwave said:
the waight limit will be on the wheels as they are what is going to take the hits at the end of the day along with the fork and rear sus.

cheap ones of all 3 are not meant for high mileage off road so fine to plod about down the canal path and these bike are 2x plus the waight of a normal bike and even they have throu axles on the forks these days even road bikes have them now and disc rotors.

Agreed but i did 20yrs of hard mountain biking before i had a bike with maxles and i never broke an axle , spokes and rims mind you that was a different matter a few of them ive had in the past with awkward landings etc

Woosh · Jun 16, 2018

jameshiggon said:
But not for the warrior? Sorry getting more confused than i was to start with on here

The Warrior can't cope with the Olympic trail in Hadleigh.
Bike Base in Queens Road stock Haibikes, you should try some of them out then compare them with the Warrior. You'll see the differences in components.

Trevormonty · Jun 16, 2018

Specialized Levo family are rated for 136kg, Trek 136kg, Cube 115kg. As others have stated the bikes are designed to can carry these weights with hard riding over most extreme terrain, another 10-20kg shouldn't be problem for gentle forest trail riding.

soundwave · Jun 16, 2018

Fat Rat said:
Agreed but i did 20yrs of hard mountain biking before i had a bike with maxles and i never broke an axle , spokes and rims mind you that was a different matter a few of them ive had in the past with awkward landings etc

axle never broke that did tho

soundwave · Jun 16, 2018

if that is the sort of things you want to do off road then you want as best as you can afford or it wont last 5mins esp cheap suspension.

Woosh · Jun 16, 2018

looking at the Hadleigh trail video, I reckon even the Levo may break with James' weight.
The stress is proportional to the rider's weight square.

soundwave · Jun 16, 2018

your best option is to go try some out first then decide if you want to spend the extra or not on a high end bike with better parts fitted.

most on here get a hard tail then regret it not spending the extra on a fs bike as it makes a big difference off road even down a gravel track at 15mph.

soundwave · Jun 17, 2018

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Electric-Bikes-UK-Dealer/Full-Suspension-eBikes/Haibike-sDuro-FullSeven-LT-4.0-2018?filter=12

if you buy the bike from there you can have a dongle and no hassle warranty.

so 15mph speed limit will be removed.

Fat Rat · Jun 17, 2018

jameshiggon said:
But do they handle 21st? Do you not like the Trek bikes? I only ask as they say they handle up to 21.5st

There’s nothing wrong with trek bikes
No offence intended but soundwave is haibike specific because he owns one
Also if you want a hard tail get one I’ve had full suspension bikes but I prefer hard tails as there more efficient ,easier to clean and require less maintenance but they do require a bit more skill to ride fast as you have to pick your lines better but I find this more rewarding

TZC · Jun 17, 2018

Right so that woosh maxdrive fatbike is called the warrior now is it? I was waiting AGES for it to show up on the woosh site. I really wanted to say shut up and take my money for that 6 months ago.

Eh, maybe im still interested. but - there's always the 48v 17+ah bafang ultra fatbikes on alibaba or whatever to consider

Here, just something I came up with in 3 mins. I didn't even know to be honest alibaba was a thing

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-products-500w-electric-bicycle-beach_60771493724.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.3.7cd3445aWZ4k1i

Probably pay the price of the bike for delivery though XD

bad example and things have changed since last time I looked,

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/RisunMotor-Mustang-DNM-Dual-Suspension-48V-1000W-8Fun-Mid-Drive-Motor-Electric-Fat-Bike-with-26/32772807646.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.8.63c276830pIst3&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10340_10341_10548_10696_10192_10190_10084_5722520_10083_10618_10307_10820_10301_10821_10303_5722620_5722920_10059_5722720_5722820_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_5723120,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_2&algo_expid=15fb37b0-e829-492b-8d0c-a5d898d670cc-1&algo_pvid=15fb37b0-e829-492b-8d0c-a5d898d670cc&priceBeautifyAB=0

Woosh · Jun 17, 2018

jameshiggon said:
I also need something with after sales support though so I'm ruling out chinese imports

It is a wise decision in this time of uncertainty about anti-dumping duty on Chinese bikes.
On support, the anti dumping issue does not affect availability much, Bafang who makes the electrics of most Chinese e-bikes are not directly hit, they sell parts worldwide, including from Germany, inside the EU. The mechanical bikes can be maintained by normal bike shops. The real threat is the brands disappearing because the anti dumping measure makes Chinese bikes more expensive than German bikes.

Trevormonty · Jun 17, 2018

jameshiggon said:
What about the Trek powerfly 4?

https://www.trekbikes.com/gb/en_GB/bikes/mountain-bikes/electric-mountain-bikes/powerfly/powerfly-4/p/22051/

I've just bought powerfly 7, nice bike which I got at good price, but those UK prices are very steep. Unfortunately Cubes are limited to 115kg as they are normally excellent value.

Before looking further test ride a few bikes, will give you some idea of what you like or dislike.

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