Thanks Dave, will have another look. But think I have narrowed it down now to the Alpino which is very well specified and folds well so meets the reasoning behind getting a folder in the first place (more convenience)
Or the Bosch powered AVE that looks terrific, meets my criteria of having both a hub and crankdrive bike, BUT not as practical to carry....
I really don't know what to do...its a head or heart job I'm afraid, made more difficult with AVE now within budget with the £1000 price drop
edit due to your 2nd post: AVE seem a bit odd..they totally ignored my email last year but i was not prepared to pay 3k for the bike, but they have dropped the price. I spoke to Richard at Ebco yesterday, they have this bike on demo in Warwick and bikes due middle of June, he was very helpful, getting the tape measure out etc...
Don't know how long the favourable exchange rate will last but it makes a big difference. I see from other post your on Hols, we are heading down to Croatia again for some Island hopping this summer...