Bastille Day

derf

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In England and within the English language, we have a quaint little procedure called comprehension. This is where you read a passage of text, process the information and understand its meaning.

If you re-read my original post, you will see that I wrote that terrorists are using refugees and migrants for cover to smuggle themselves into countries. Using basic comprehension techniques, it is possible to deduce from this that the migrants and refugees are innocent, but a very small number amoungst them are neither migrant or refugee. This small number of people are in fact terrorists.

Your bad comprehension has lead you to misinterpret this, resulting in you drawing an incorrect parallel. "Right wing types suffer chronic importance" implies that all right wing types suffer thus condition. This is the same as saying that all migrants and refugees are terrorists. That has never been suggested.

With such bad comprehension skills, I don't think it is fair on others for you to continue in this debate. Clearly your deficiency in this area is causing you to take people's words entirely out of context. I'm sure there will be some form of English out-reach project in your area where you can brush up on this sort of thing.
by the way, for those who can understand, I was merely pointing out that you did not support your views with evidence. It was an analogy, if that makes sense to you?
 

tillson

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so, when you're not being insulting, you try to bully others off forums. Interesting. I'm sure it cant possibly have any links with your views about refugees and migrants, could it?
Simply pointing out that your lack of comprehension skill is preventing you from fully participating in a coherent manner. This is resulting in people's comments being repeated by you with a false slant. That's unfair.

Again, you have incorrectly linked my suggestion of taking a break to improve your language skills to the treatment of refugees. Go back and re-read what I have written and you will find no evidence of a link.
 
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tillson

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by the way, for those who can understand, I was merely pointing out that you did not support your views with evidence. It was an analogy, if that makes sense to you?
And that's the point. My statement concerned very few amoungst many within a group, your analogy of that was all within a group. Better comprehension skills will enable you to avoid these mistakes in the future.
 

derf

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Simply pointing out that your lack of comprehension skill is preventing you from fully participating in a coherent manner. This is resulting in people's comments being repeated by you with a false slant. That's unfair.
No,you made sweeping unsubstantiated generalisations. You desrved to be challenged,for the sake of the forum and intelligent, informed debate. If you find that difficult,i wont try to exclude you from it,i will simply suggest that you try to deal with it.
 

tillson

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No,you made sweeping unsubstantiated generalisations. You desrved to be challenged,for the sake of the forum and intelligent, informed debate. If you find that difficult,i wont try to exclude you from it,i will simply suggest that you try to deal with it.
And where is this sweeping statement? Yet again, your reading and comprehension skills have let you down.

Im confident that you won't be able to quote this sweeping statement because it doesn't exist. This is the point I'm making. You really need to get this sorted derf.
 

oldtom

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I am dreadfully sorry for the victims of the Nice massacre, as I was for the 7/7 events in London and 9/11 in New York.

I am also very sorry for all those murdered in Turkey because of the hatred of a group of people occupying high positions with the ability to order other people to do their bidding.

It make me sick to my stomach to read some of the drivel spouted by some correspondents to this thread whereby the answer to what has become a global rather than a regional problem is to tighten up border security and treat everyone as terrorists.

With such views abroad, I sincerely fear for those British people who are not white-skinned, cannot claim centuries of British heritage or are attracted to people of the same gender.

Clearly, racism is alive and well along with every other 'ism' one might think of. The arrogance of a sizeable proportion of English people, judging by some of the input in this and the 'Brexit' thread, really is quite breathtaking.

Tom
 

tillson

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I am dreadfully sorry for the victims of the Nice massacre, as I was for the 7/7 events in London and 9/11 in New York.

I am also very sorry for all those murdered in Turkey because of the hatred of a group of people occupying high positions with the ability to order other people to do their bidding.

It make me sick to my stomach to read some of the drivel spouted by some correspondents to this thread whereby the answer to what has become a global rather than a regional problem is to tighten up border security and treat everyone as terrorists.

With such views abroad, I sincerely fear for those British people who are not white-skinned, cannot claim centuries of British heritage or are attracted to people of the same gender.

Clearly, racism is alive and well along with every other 'ism' one might think of. The arrogance of a sizeable proportion of English people, judging by some of the input in this and the 'Brexit' thread, really is quite breathtaking.

Tom
It's unfortunate, but greater border security can contribute to reducing the ease with which terrorists move between countries and continents. We are all affected by this and I am quite happy to be checked out and to put up with the inconvenience of the checks when visiting another country.

Can't quite see where racism comes into it. I think you might have made that bit up.
 
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tillson

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Keen on having a police state? It would need to be to monitor an entire population.
Wrong approach that will simply inflame the situation


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Don't think we need a police state. Just a few sensible checked on people arriving. Not guaranteed to work, but it would lower the probability of an attack such as this happening.

As I've said before, personally I have no problem with checks being carried out on me when I travel. I've got nothing to hide.
 
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mike killay

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Oldtom,
your pathological altruism is getting stupid.
You take what you consider the 'high moral ground' and deprecate others.
Yet, you offer no solution other than to let the current state of affairs to continue, with people being murdered on a regular basis by a 'religion' that borders on Nazism.
 
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Wicky

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I think only the current right wing Hungarian government is actively repelling Muslim immigrants due to a long history...

The 'bacon sarnie test' was part of a series of 11th century laws imposed by the Catholic Church against non-christians but was directed principally at Muslims - folk could be put to death and/or the accuser get the property of those accused. Quite a few pragmatically 'ate the sarnie' and converted to Christianity but still secretly practiced Islam.

Didn't do Hungary much good as Ottoman Empire in 16th Century took over and ruled over Hungary - hence why Hungary today is relatively anti-muslim/anti-immigrant...

Hungary’s government says: Eat more pork, it’s good for you!
 

SteveRuss

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I've just got back from camping in France with my GF. We camped in the Alps about an hour drive north of Nice.

Wednesday July 13th, we made our plans for Thursday and Friday. Thursday was a drive to Nice on Bastille day and Friday was white water rafting on the Verdon river. The woman on the campsite recommended we go white water rafting on the Thursday instead and then Nice on the Friday due to Nice being very busy on the Thursday due to Bastille day. We took her advice..

RIP all the poor people that fell under that mad mans truck. We feel very very lucky to have not been there.
 
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