Bafang BESST Programming Tool
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Does the Bosch software provide different level of access rights to different accounts? Dealer/User? I suppose we'd have to ask a Bosch dealer if those changes you mentioned are possible using their dealer accounts.
to get the bosch software you must be a bosch dealer and be a registered business that sells ebikes.
i have a bosch connect account that will do a software update to the displays software but anything else like firmware updates id need to take it to a bosch dealer and pay 30 quid again.
i have a bosch connect account that will do a software update to the displays software but anything else like firmware updates id need to take it to a bosch dealer and pay 30 quid again.
It's a whole "Product Ecosystem" which Bosch has set up, and it's very likely that the dealers have to pay an anual or monthly software licensing fee to Bosch (Bafang trying to emulate), and they profit by charging you... just like BMW and some other car manufacturers. For all I know, there might be Bosch Engineer acccess above Dealer access, providing deeper changes to the firmware.
say you have a bike and think ill just take it to the dealer and get the usa speed limit put on the bike you cant as software is country locked.
dealers cant even open the motors to change a 5 quid bearing in warranty and all have to be sent back to bosch.
dealers cant even open the motors to change a 5 quid bearing in warranty and all have to be sent back to bosch.
...it's rigged to make Bosch more money and increase e-waste. With Bafang somewhat copying this approach with their new kits, especially it seems with regard to batteries.
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like future motion bafang are screwing the customers that made them as big as they are and forcing you to buy there batts as well.
sure you can rip the controller out of it atm! as it is just a motor but a royal pita.
id not buy a gen 4 bosch bike as it is only a matter of time until a firmware update bricks all these dongles fitted to the motors but not done it yet as will get a error 504 code speed manipulation error and after 3 times bike will go to limp mode and will need a dealer reset.
sure you can rip the controller out of it atm! as it is just a motor but a royal pita.
id not buy a gen 4 bosch bike as it is only a matter of time until a firmware update bricks all these dongles fitted to the motors but not done it yet as will get a error 504 code speed manipulation error and after 3 times bike will go to limp mode and will need a dealer reset.
...or Bosch could decide to brick all of their old motors like Sonos did, to force people to upgrade:
Sonos U-turn over 'bricking' its smart speakers
Sonos will no longer make people permanently deactivate devices to get an upgrade discount.
www.bbc.co.uk
to "encourage responsible disposal of older devices"
or this happens lmfao.
thenextweb.com
Faulty update brainwashes AEG microwaves into thinking they’re steam ovens
A software update has caused AEG microwaves to have an identity crisis — all of them think they’re steam ovens.
thenextweb.com
I'd love to see that happen to a fridge!or this happens lmfao.
Faulty update brainwashes AEG microwaves into thinking they’re steam ovens
A software update has caused AEG microwaves to have an identity crisis — all of them think they’re steam ovens.
I bought a Xiaomi security camera on ebay uk and it worked great for 5 minutes, then stopped and insisted on an OTA firmware update to make it work again... and bricked itself saying "Wrong region, this product is only authorised for use within mainland China". No way to roll the update back, no way to change region to Mainland China. "Smart" devices are for dumb people! It's now a door stop, so it can Xioami the exit.
I use a Creative Web Blaster from 1999 instead, which still works.our old foscam still works but not on the app only via the network cable these days must be 15 years old the ir is toast but can still move it about.
wont work with my cloud key tho as only there cams work on that
Bosch could go the way that nVidia is considering- monthly user subsciptions sold with all new Bosch bikes?
Nvidia plans subscription-fueled journey to $1tr revenue
Think about Tesla charging extra for features like Autopilot, then look at your GPU card, and you'll get the idea
www.theregister.com
if i want i can lock the kiox display to my bike for a one off fee of 8 quid i think and i can also link my e connect account to a komoot one but to get all the data id have to pay so already doing it.
it is whay im sending my old motor to peter for a repair as if i change it it back down the bosch dealers as the sn will change and yeah cant be assed with that, so my old motor will keep another bosch bike on the road.
the new motors are not is smart it is the displays as now have a full can bus chip inside them so stores the sn of each part of my bike batt motor display and sends them a can bus signal every 30 milliseconds and no one has kack in to it yet.
it is whay im sending my old motor to peter for a repair as if i change it it back down the bosch dealers as the sn will change and yeah cant be assed with that, so my old motor will keep another bosch bike on the road.
the new motors are not is smart it is the displays as now have a full can bus chip inside them so stores the sn of each part of my bike batt motor display and sends them a can bus signal every 30 milliseconds and no one has kack in to it yet.
Maybe there's a Bosch Chairman Of The Board password, which unlocks faster than light speed?
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I have seen that the guys on ES already on it and trying diy the system to get into the Canbus to make changes.
Batteries might be another thing ,time will tell.
And looks like SW is correct all motors post 2021 are Canbus.
Bafang M620/G510 (and all other Bafang motors) now on CAN-BUS (2021+) rather than UART (2018-2020)? - Endless Sphere (endless-sphere.com)
Bafang M500/M600 thread - Endless Sphere (endless-sphere.com)
Batteries might be another thing ,time will tell.
And looks like SW is correct all motors post 2021 are Canbus.
Bafang M620/G510 (and all other Bafang motors) now on CAN-BUS (2021+) rather than UART (2018-2020)? - Endless Sphere (endless-sphere.com)
Bafang M500/M600 thread - Endless Sphere (endless-sphere.com)
This Pedalease mid-drive looks very simiar to the BBS - I expect there would be a greater number of similar mid-drives made available, if Bafang stop making the BBSXX series. I wonder if this could be a viable future purchase? I'm never buying Bosch, that's for sure. Does anyone know about this kit?
Even Tongsheng looks like they are trying to stop motor controller upgrades their latest tsdz2 controllers in motors are different, the new version can't be upgraded using the current OSF firmware. The guys are recommending to make sure any model or controller replaced is an old type one. The board layout is slightly different on the new ones.
So far only those sold by enerprof appear to have the new 2020/21 controllers which can't be upgraded.
So far only those sold by enerprof appear to have the new 2020/21 controllers which can't be upgraded.
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