No.Yes by all means, although I am not getting grumpy. This conversation started with me mentioning some things that I was doing/buying to add co-ords to my photos in the future. I wasn't actually trying to get myself converted, and all attempts have failed. People keep telling me how good smartphones are, and they may be where you live. With the poor mobile reception here it is not a good solution for me, and the reason that I have chosen my multi-device approach. I have tried to highlight this, but it seems to be falling on deaf ears, I have nonetheless enjoyed the attempts of those who obviously think that they know better, despite the fact that there is a good chance that they have never been here!
Provision of functionality at little or no extra cost is a bit wide of the mark. £16 has been stated, per month, for the rest of my life presumably.
All you need is warmth, food, water, company and a chance to express yourself. Everything else is optional.My camera costs nothing per month.
I understand how jolly good they can be, but I don't need one, neither do most others.
Thank you for not wasting any further time on me. You seem to think you have the answer to everything, but it appears that you don't. You can't seem to get it into your head that we don't have the same circumstances or the same needs. My capacity tale has obviously blown a hole in the Utopia which you think that you can introduce me to with an all-singing smartphone.All you need is warmth, food, water, company and a chance to express yourself. Everything else is optional.
FYI, if it helps, smartphone cameras cost nothing per month as well. It's only the calls/internet that you pay for, and you don't have to pay anything if you don't use then. Everything else in it is free.
I have the same problem and experience. I have no mobile reception in my home on any network, despite being in a London Borough. I'm retired and home quite a lot, so there's no point in others having a number for me that cannot connect, so no point in my having a smartphone for communications.People keep telling me how good smartphones are, and they may be where you live. With the poor mobile reception here it is not a good solution for me, and the reason that I have chosen my multi-device approach. I have tried to highlight this, but it seems to be falling on deaf ears,
Some people just can't help being wakers, or did I miss something there?Flecc, don't buy a new one. You can have one from this free box that I will be getting, once I get the details. There may be a short wait!
Though true, why is it that I am so often called upon to rescue smartphone camera photos, using Adobe Photoshop and other softwares?Smartphone cameras have killed off the point and shoot camera and are now decimating the DSLR market. And remember, the smartphone can do a million other things as well!
This associate sounds very wise!Fortunately he does understand the difference, for he also owns an excellent DSLR and knows how to use it well, but of course cannot always have that with him.
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You are probably correct regarding the competence of the user not being the only factor but it is the main one. I was at a wedding a few months back and noticed the highly regarded photographer was often snapping with his S7. After a couple of beers we questioned him on this and he replied that in some instances he preferred the phone over his usual camera and often included photos taken with it in his proofs to the customer.Though true, why is it that I am so often called upon to rescue smartphone camera photos, using Adobe Photoshop and other softwares?
It's not always the incompetence of the user. An associate in my local environmental issues often produces excellent smartphone photos of certain subjects, but equally fails to in various circumstances where even a dedicated pocket camera can do much better. His top flight smartphone has lost him many a photographic opportunity and that's when I can sometimes perform a rescue of what he did get.
Fortunately he does understand the difference, for he also owns an excellent DSLR and knows how to use it well, but of course cannot always have that with him.
I have four cameras currently, but most of the time use one of the two pocketable ones, both able to meet any of my photographic needs, which a smartphone couldn't. Two of my jackets don't even have a pocket large enough for today's smartphones, but can accept one of my pocketable cameras (Canon SX260). Of course that wouldn't trouble those who live with their smartphone in their hand from dawn to dusk, but I wouldn't want to live like that.
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No dispute, for that sort of subject I fully agree, and indeed for the great majority of photos that most people take, a good smartphone is well up to the job.You are probably correct regarding the competence of the user not being the only factor but it is the main one. I was at a wedding a few months back and noticed the highly regarded photographer was often snapping with his S7. After a couple of beers we questioned him on this and he replied that in some instances he preferred the phone over his usual camera and often included photos taken with it in his proofs to the customer.
You're wasting your time with these guys, Dan. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. For whatever reasons, probably sheer bloody-mindedness, some guys just don't want to take advantage of the new things available to them. That's their choice. We try to help them by providing information, but they see the help as an attack on their integrity or intelligence, so they'll defend their position to the death.
We had a guy at work, who would always sit down with us at lunchtime and start the conversation by explaining that he had a problem and needed a solution to it, but no matter what logical solution anybody offered, he would argue to the death why each solution wouldn't work, changing the problem along the way just to make sure. I'm sure we've all met guys like that.