anyone got tried cycleeze ainsman rear hub bike

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hi all met someone today with cycleezee torque ebike but with 19ah battery, he liked the bike and mainly rode in in power level 5.

looking on the cycleezeee website found the ansman with rear hub 16ah at £1300 seems descent quality german moter and good warrenty.

anyone tried this particular bike your views please I do not know nm of moter?

http://cyclezee.com/custom-built-electric-bikes.html

 

[IR772]

Have you seen on their website !!
"(optional upgrade to 19Ah 684Wh and 28Ah (1008Wh)"

They have 20 amp controllers so powerful

 

[Deleted member 4366]

The Ansmann isn't bad for what it is, but it has some disadvantages for some people. CANbus in the electronics means expensive replacement batteries and all repairs are tied to the dealer (no DIY). Also, the direct drive motor is not everybody's cup of tea - not so easy to ride without power and slightly slower downhill.

 

[2Lazy]

hi all met someone today with cycleezee torque ebike but with 19ah battery, he liked the bike and mainly rode in in power level 5.

looking on the cycleezeee website found the ansman with rear hub 16ah at £1300 seems descent quality german moter and good warrenty.

anyone tried this particular bike your views please I do not know nm of moter?

http://cyclezee.com/custom-built-electric-bikes.html

I haven't ridden the Ansman but I have an Ezee Forza which I bought from Cyclezee a couple years ago. The Ezee bikes have a 20amp controller and a very lively motor. Read my review of the Forza here http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/ezee-forza-review.27322/

 

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Ezee bikes are very robust, they give good power for hill-climbing and last for years. Unfortunately, they're a little old-fashioned now because they haven't kept up with modern trends. They're great if you want a work-horse, and you're not too bothered about the weight. Sadly, I don't think that they'll be around too much longer.

Somebody is bringing a very old one to me that's still going strong on it's third battery since 2008. She bought a Bosch Bergamont to replace it, but found that she couldn't get up the very steep hill where she lives, and on other hills, her legs got too tired, so she wants to keep the Ezee going as long as possible. Being the first version, this one has a rather unusual control system, which is absolutely diabolical and defies logic, so I'm going to update the controller and PAS function to a modern one for her.

 

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thanks all for info looked on ansmann site moter is 40nm , my specialised with hub kit is 40nm ok on flat not much cop on steepish hills.
also if batteries are mega expensive mybe not for me

how many miles has the old ezee covered if its on its 3 battery.

have read on here the ezee bikes are good hill climbers exactly what I want ,but cannot find anything on the forza moter spec as regards nm etc
or what makes the moter better for hills is it gearing or just the fact it has a 20amp controller.

is it similar to a bpm I cannot find any info on batteries or prices google search for forza.

thank you

 

[2Lazy]

thanks all for info looked on ansmann site moter is 40nm , my specialised with hub kit is 40nm ok on flat not much cop on steepish hills.
also if batteries are mega expensive mybe not for me

how many miles has the old ezee covered if its on its 3 battery.

have read on here the ezee bikes are good hill climbers exactly what I want ,but cannot find anything on the forza moter spec as regards nm etc
or what makes the moter better for hills is it gearing or just the fact it has a 20amp controller.

is it similar to a bpm I cannot find any info on batteries or prices google search for forza.

thank you

I would say that the Ezee motor is comparable to the bpm motor although it will depend on the battery and controller that is paired with the bpm. I've ridden at least two bikes with the bpm and while they were both good I would say that the Ezee motor has marginally more umph and hill climbing power. That is entirely subjective though I have no stats to back it up.

I've also ridden an MTB with Ezee rear wheel hub kit and bottle cage mounted battery and it was by far the most powerful ebike I've ridden. I think it might have had a 48v battery, can't remember now as it was quite some time ago, but whatever it had the thing went like a rocket ship!

The Ezee motor, batteries and controller etc. are available in kit form. All the details are on the Cyclezee website http://cyclezee.com/conversion-kits.html

 

[Benjahmin]

I have an Ezee front hub conversion, my wife has a Woosh big bear, which is a bpm. L:ike for like power settings, the Ezee is faster though the big bear is capable of taking the lead on steep bits (it's a 26" wheel, mine is 700c).
Overall though I would say that the Ezee edges it. Both are prodigious hill climbers, both are high current controllers and will eat batteries if used in high power constantly. I generally ride mine in power 2/5 with occasional 3 if I feel tired. This gets me nicely around west Wales (even with panniers loaded with shopping) with the odd grunt and sweat breaking on the steeper bits.
Kit is now over £1k but seems to last the distance. I've now done about 4000 on mine.

 

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There's lots of different versions of the BPM. The 250w and 350w ones have thinner wire in the windings than the 500w ones, so they don't respond to high current in the same way. The 500W ones can manage 30 amps at 36v and 25A at 48v. the 350w ones can do 22 amps at 36v and 48v. then there's all the different speed windings. I've seen codes 16, 15, 13, 12, 11, 10 and 8. There's a massive difference in the climbing ability between a code 16 and a code 8 because of the difference in efficiency at low speed.

 

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Ezee bikes are very robust, they give good power for hill-climbing and last for years. Unfortunately, they're a little old-fashioned now because they haven't kept up with modern trends.

What are 'modern trends'? Expensive and complicated are two words that come to mind. Many of us want something simple and practical, with good spares backup. Cyclezee seem to cover all that.

 

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Any of the very cheap bikes have rudimentary control systems if that's what you want. You wouldn't want that Ezee system on your bike, trust me. It doesn't even have a PAS function except that you have to pedal before you can use the throttle.

 

[Woosh]

What are 'modern trends'? Expensive and complicated are two words that come to mind. Many of us want something simple and practical, with good spares backup. Cyclezee seem to cover all that.

I move to the middle ground, the Bafang SWX02 is between BPM and SWXH.
It's still as simple and durable as the other two but lighter in weight than the BPM. As with all geared hub motors, derestriction does not affect much the life of the motor.
Battery wise, the trend is now moving from 15AH to 17.5AH in the same 3kg format.

 

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I move to the middle ground, the Bafang SWX02 is between BPM and SWXH.
It's still as simple and durable as the other two but lighter in weight than the BPM. As with all geared hub motors, derestriction does not affect much the life of the motor.
Battery wise, the trend is now moving from 15AH to 17.5AH in the same 3kg format.

Yes Mr Woosh, you supply good backup as well! That's the crucial thing when one's bike is in daily use. I have found some really good bikes on Alibaba, going the central battery way, but they don't seem to make it to the UK.