Also looking to commute in London - different parameters

[Terry1100]

Any thoughts on the Wisper 806 ?

 

[Terry1100]

Do we like the EBCO LSF:40 Folder ?

I had a look at the non-folding models in a well known high street chain and liked the way the assistance kicked in as I started to pedal much less on/off than the other e-bike I have tried.

The LSF:40 also benefits form a centrestand that looks like it stands up easier when folded

Components look good - and I'd obviously buy it from a small local dealer than the high street option.

What's the gotcha with this model ?

 

[Wicky]

With a range of up to 30 miles in eco mode,

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/electric-bikes/ebco-lsf-40-folding-electric-bike

Range is pretty poor - esp allowing for the battery over time to lose efficiency.

Again there was a KTM ex-demo going for around the same price (£1300) that'd beat the Halfords bike by a long way in performance and quality.

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/exdemo-ktm-erace-p650-450-miles-on-clock-£1350-off.19672/

 

[D8ve]

It meets your requirements with hub gear, small wheels, folding.
It would also be very quickly boring. It has limited range and won't be the best at unpowered cycling.
High depreciation too.

The bosh previously mentioned would blow it away.
Better control, higher average speeds, hold its purchase price longer.
A bike others will covet. Both openly and theifing barstewards.
You should get a security system for it?

 

[Cyclezee]

Now the Ansmann FC5 Compact mentioned previously is even better value with 5% off in our sale starting Boxing Day.
It is £1139 with a 9Ah battery and £1234 with the 11.6Ah battery.
You also get free Cycle Recovery insurance.

Specification:
Frame
Size 35cm
Colours White / Black / Yellow
Frame Aluminium 6061 3D Forged
Fork Alloy


Components
Handlebar Alloy sport
Stem Aluminium adjustable
Seat Post Aluminium Suspension
Saddle Selle Royal Gel

Drivetrain
Gears Shimano Nexus 8 speed twist shift
Brakes Linear pull Shimano Deore
Crankset Ansmann Pedal Sensor

Wheels
Rims Ryde Andra 10
Hubs Shimano Nexus 8 integrated hubgears
Sync Drive hub motor
Spokes Stainless Steel
Tyres Schwalbe Marathon plus Puncture Resistant Reflective

Electric Components
Motor Front wheel 250 Watt continuous output
Console LED Display
Batteries Lithium Ion 36V 9Ah or 11.6Ah
Range Approx 40 Miles

Accessories
Lighting Sprint LED Front/Rear
Carrier Aluminium Carrier
Mudguard RPZ Black

 

[D8ve]

Cyclezees' ansmann, should be better than the f40 folder and cyclezee is a recognised specialist electric bike dealer.
Regular support on forum it would meet your spec. The 8 speed hub gives you a better gear range than the seven (400% against 300% if my memory is right)

 

[Terry1100]

I was close to being sold on the Ansmann the moment I saw it. But as it's the first e-bike I ever rode I need to see the competition before I shell out. I need to see/ride a Wisper 806 before I make a final decision. (Before sale ends )

 

[Terry1100]

Another question (apologies - I'm an inveterage pre-purchase researcher)

What about the large wheel folders - earlier in the thread the Woosh Zephyr B was proposed - there's also a Beocycles Chameleon 24/XL

Minimum folded size is not an issue for me - I'm never going to carry it on public transport - it's just ease of getting it into the office (and possibly the car)

TIA

 

[trex]

I test rode the Zephyr-B last month for about 20 miles, there was about 30% left in the battery at the end. It's very light, despite having a big BPM motor, handles well and extremely comfortable. Full suspension and remote lockout control for the front fork, you can adjust the suspension to suit the road if you like, I only adjusted it once at the start. The 52T chain ring slows down the cadence, this should really be more widely adopted on e-bikes. Maximum unrestricted speed is about 22mph. It also has hydraulic front and rear brakes. It folds/unfolds in about 5 seconds. It feels quite like the Zephyr CDN but faster and more comfy.

 

[Cyclezee]

If folding is less important than being compact then an eZee Street would also meet the requirements, 20" wheels, Nexus 7 speed hub gears, a choice of 4 battery capacities and the bike that climbed the steepest street in the world.

 

[Terry1100]

Interesting alternative to the Ansmann - I do like the centrestand (and big battery option). But not in the same league quality-wise I presume.

 

[Cyclezee]

But not in the same league quality-wise I presume.

I might be slightly biased, but eZee are the best electric bikes made in China.

 

[Cyclezee]

Hi Terry,
Here is the photo that I couldn't send/attach in the conversation.

 

[Peter Arendt]

Any thoughts on the Wisper 806 ?

Hi Terry, I have a Wisper Classic 806 2014 model with the plastic battery casing. Guess what has happend the power circuit end case towards the seat had completely snapped off while I was riding the 11 month old bike. If the dealers think this is quality build bike made by Germans think twice. this should not have happened if the bike was tested for vibrations which causes more damage the part on most bike. The battery casing should have had a support bracket under the circuit part of the case to stop this happening. this bike has had part drop of it as the main compliant. I would recommend any one buy the 2015 bike, to bounce the rear a few times before buying it then see if it's value for money.

 

[trex]

Peter makes a very valid point about support for his controller box and his recommendation of test bouncing the battery end of the bike a few times is a good one. I would also add waggling the bike to the test.
A good bike must feel mechanically sound.

 

[lendmeyourear]

I've got 2 ebikes, both of which would do your trip. I've got a Kudos Tourer and a Kudos Typhoon.
The Typhoon is gruntier but for a trip like yours I'd take the Tourer. It has mudguards, lights, a rack and panniers.
The Tourer doesn't have a throttle but if you get tired/lazy, simply turning the pedals makes the motor kick in. At the sale price right now, it's a good buy.

The battery comes off in a few seconds to recharge at home or office.