Aldi selling cheap camera with Sony sensor £49

Bonzo Banana

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Actually, the video below was shot using a cheap and common 2 year old Crosstour 4K, only 1080p. No image stabilisation, 60FPS. The scaled up screenshot of the number plate is at the end. And this is (obviously) at night. It's much easier to record clear plates of faster moving vehicles during the day. I don't think that a fortune necessarily needs to be spent on action cameras for this sort of task.

I've had difficulties at 30FPS, because there are a lot of duff frames. 60FPS increases the likelihood of seeing clear plate... 4k 30FPS results in larger duff frames. A faster shutter speed would help, but my cheap camera doesn't allow user control of that. The 64GB SD card size limit is annoying, shooting 1080P 120FPS fills the card too fast. Aldi's cheap camera can use up to 128GB.

I personally wouldn't assume a more expensive action camera would capture number plates better. Some of the very cheap action cameras have crappy 1.3MP sensors meant for security cameras and they have blocky pixels that capture a lot of light per pixel. I was mucking about with a action camera based on a general plus chipset which is the worst chipset for action cameras and often used in those awful children's digital cameras and other very low cost digital cameras and I'm sure it had great night performance. The sensor had the least accurate colours I've seen I think, not very true to life at all. As sensors go up in megapixels it becomes harder to be light sensitive. I think Panasonic/Lumix released a 12MP compact camera not that long ago actually less megapixels that the previous model because it gave such good all round performance from that sensor with regard light sensitivity. Panasonic TZ70 which gives far better night photography and allows faster shutter speeds during the day or smaller apertures etc over similar cameras with more megapixels and less light sensitivity.


As action cameras go up in megapixels their light sensitivity of the sensors reduces and they have to compensate for that somehow, it could be slower shutter speeds or wider aperture etc. They almost all use tiny sensors with poor light sensitivity anyway so you can't assume that a camera that gives amazingly detailed video in good light will also be competent at night.
 

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Are you snooty about cheap 1080p cameras?
Yes. I loved them in 2014, but now they're a POS. Just waiting for this baby to become 90% cheaper - maybe I might get lucky next black Friday or blue moon. While I save up, there's only one choice - 4K.
 

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Wow, super impressive but I wonder how it compares to a full size gimbal. Sort of seems more like 2 axis optical stabilisation with digital image stabilisation added. To fit in a camera like that the mechanism most be extremely tiny and I guess a pretty small sensor physically to fit into that mechanism. Hopefully the technology will filter down to cheaper phones if its any good. So many sensors in phones nowadays. It's like my phone has 3 at the back and 1 at the front. It's clever how they can process images from all of the back sensors to create improved photos and videos computationally.

I can see some of this technology getting to action cameras but as its not such a big market for action cameras compared to mobile phones the prices probably won't be quite as competitive.
Judging by Youtube "Test" videos, it doesn't appear to work as well for producing stable footage as GoPro's Hypersmooth, which has largely made Gopro gimbals redundant. It's very frustrating that cheap phone camera technology doesn't make it's way into cheap action cameras. I'd like to see triple camera and sensor packages on action cameras shooting and processing real HDR - that'll reveal number plates in dark conditions, if the system selects the right bracketing exposures. This could be achieved by connecting something like three Raspberry Pi cameras to a system running on sufficiently powerful small computer, but overall it wouldn't be small enough to mount to the front of my helmet jawguard.
 

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Yes. I loved them in 2014, but now they're a POS. Just waiting for this baby to become 90% cheaper - maybe I might get lucky next black Friday or blue moon. While I save up, there's only one choice - 4K.
There appears to be one on ebay for £599.99

 

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Yes. I loved them in 2014, but now they're a POS. Just waiting for this baby to become 90% cheaper - maybe I might get lucky next black Friday or blue moon. While I save up, there's only one choice - 4K.
Doesn't look great:



Stabilisation is as usual, confused in low light conditions.

 

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That's because Youtube is 1080P, not 8K
Why is that important? There are 4k videos on youtube. If video was downscaled from 8k to 1080P and uploaded to Youtube, it would still look good, if it looked good to start with - often (depending on the downscale method used) videos or photos downscaled look sharper. If it was recorded at 1080P and uploaded, why does it look so blomin awful? Publicity videos made by manufacturers purporting to show how good their camera is, often fake it by using a better camera to record it with - often Sony or Panasonics on gimbals. And it's not just the resolution which is bad: colour depth is pants in the daytime video, it's image stabilisation is jerky even in daylight, and apparently utterly useless at night. The only good thing I can say about the night footage I've seen thus far, is that it's less noisy than usual in low light. I have no doubt that's a good senor, but the rest of that camera is pants! Are you certain saving up to buy this is sane @saneagle? Here's one for sale at £600 new. You may have saved up enough already:


Are your eyes rose tinted, or is it your glasses?
 
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