Agattu lights

I can see from the Flecc's review of the Agattu that the lights on this bike are not enough for night cycling !

"As usual with lighting included in a bike's specification, these are adequate for occasional use, but a regular cyclist on dark unlit roads will want to add some high intensity lighting".

Im going for the Pro-connect, which i think has the same lighting?

I wondered which front light I should replace this with ?

I have a Petzl Tikka headlight which I use for walking and I wondered if I could modify this in any way to provide me with Bi use ?

Or just strap it on my Head (Keep it Simple).

Bob

Edited February 20, 200818 yr by burncycle

I didn't say they were not enough, just that a regular cyclist on unlit roads might want more. Most commuters on unlit roads like to upgrade their lights these days, particularly the headlight to pick out the unlit potholes.

However, that was the Agattu. The Pro-Connect uses very different lights and I've no idea what they are like. They look a bit smaller, have different construction, and I think use the bike's main battery instead of a hubdyno like the Agattu. I've no idea if they are LED or incandescent even, so you'll really need to wait before they can be judged.

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Ok Flecc, sorry for the misquote !!!

Does anyone us a Tikka light though?

The majority of the cyclists I see, or should I call them idiots rather than dignify them by calling them cyclists, don't use lights for riding after dark:eek: or they might have just a single rear flashing LED. In addition they are usually dressed head to toe in black just like Flecc:p

They must eat loads of carrots and imagine that motorists do too:rolleyes:

Personally I find the standard Agattu lights excellent, particulary the fact that the rear light stays illuminated when staionary for a couple of minutes.

John

 

In addition they are usually dressed head to toe in black just like Flecc

 

But I don't ride after dark, and all black is safest in the daytime.

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By aldby.

The majority of the cyclists I see, or should I call them idiots rather than dignify them by calling them cyclists, don't use lights for riding after dark or they might have just a single rear flashing LED. In addition they are usually dressed head to toe in black just like Flecc

They must eat loads of carrots and imagine that motorists do too. YOU very well maybe right but i cant afford to pay the high prices that they are asking for the better lights.nigel.

But I don't ride after dark, and all black is safest in the daytime.

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That must limit your riding time to about 20 minutes per day at the moment!

Mind you, that's still more than I'm doing.

and all black is safest in the daytime.

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Please explain Flecc

Edited February 20, 200818 yr by burncycle

Interesting article here.......

Color Blindess and Cycling Visibility

and all black is safest in the daytime.

 

 

Please explain Flecc

We had a discussion on this recently. There's a name for multiple patches of differing colour, it's called camouflage!

We live in a world that's a riot of colours and shades, our towns even worse than the countryside. The best way to be visible is to present the largest possible area of one colour or tone, and black is best for that. That's because town or nature rarely have large black objects above the ground usually, and in achieving the largest possible one colour area, black recruits the tyres to the cause. Obviously it's best if the bike is black as well.

Someone posted a treatise on this in support, called "The Theory of Big".

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Your description is really building Flecc;) Doesn't go out after dark, wears black all day.

Now I can alert all those CCTV cameras to look out for a sprightly senior citzen, dressed as a 'Goth', definitely not a Vandal, riding a strange 2 wheeled vehicle but only during daylight hours:eek:

John:)

By aldby.

The majority of the cyclists I see, or should I call them idiots rather than dignify them by calling them cyclists, don't use lights for riding after dark or they might have just a single rear flashing LED. In addition they are usually dressed head to toe in black just like Flecc

They must eat loads of carrots and imagine that motorists do too. YOU very well maybe right but i cant afford to pay the high prices that they are asking for the better lights.nigel.

Cheap lighting is better than none at all Nige, wouldn't you agree?

John:)

The two best colours for sight problems in middle/late life is red and black in combination.

ie black background, red letters or visa versa.

Your description is really building Flecc;) Doesn't go out after dark, wears black all day.

Now I can alert all those CCTV cameras to look out for a sprightly senior citzen, dressed as a 'Goth', definitely not a Vandal, riding a strange 2 wheeled vehicle but only during daylight hours:eek:

 

John:)

I do go out after dark, but walking which is safer. Unlike many of my peers, I don't believe the pavements are unsafe at night, and I'm sure cycling at night is far more dangerous.

With some drinks in both of them, I'd rather cope with high spirited teenagers than mobile phone clutching sozzled drivers.

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What about riding a bike whilst using a mobile phone, is it legal?

Oh God, lets not go there again I hear you groan:eek:

Check out the attached photo;)

John

Found a solution. Take the strap apart and feed it through a cycle helmet.

Seems to look fine.

Or here's a more radical way to be seen at night !!!

http://www.getoutdoors.com/goblog/index.php?/archives/2006/07/P2.html

Edited February 20, 200818 yr by burncycle

What about riding a bike whilst using a mobile phone, is it legal?

Oh God, lets not go there again I hear you groan:eek:

Check out the attached photo;)

 

John

No different from the cyclists at left and right here I suppose. It gets really dangerous when it's phone in one hand and brolly in the other:

http://bp3.blogger.com/_L0JM3qR2n-s/Rz7Tj05oAXI/AAAAAAAAAFg/r-VMqgJVraA/s320/bike.JPG

Found another

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Found a solution. Take the strap apart and feed it through a cycle helmet.

Seems to look fine.

The only thing is Bob, will you have a mirror on the bike? I'm just slightly concerned at the thought of you looking around and shining a bright light backwards suddenly when on an unlit road. Could cause a panic swerve or worse from a motorist.

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The best way to be visible is to present the largest possible area of one colour or tone, and black is best for that. That's because town or nature rarely have large black objects above the ground usually, and in achieving the largest possible one colour area, black recruits the tyres to the cause. Obviously it's best if the bike is black as well.

 

And if one and one's bike are completely black then at night against a black background one will be perfectly invisibly visible. In this state if one pedals forward one's motion will be backwards. NOW I know what Flecc is testing - time travel!

Yes I will be using a mirror.

In fact I was going to ask (in a future thread) but I may as well ask now....

Any good mirrors out there?

I've seen standard, wide angle, Helmet mirrors, mirrors that you attach to your glasses ???

Mirrycle

I've tried a variety of different types of mirror and the only one I really like is the Mirrycle bar-end mirror.

Mountain Mirrycle Bicycle Mirror - Mirrycle Corp.

The mirror seems to be glass, which might be regarded as a hazard, but the view of the road behind is so good that for me the advantages outweigh the risk.

Flat mirrors need to be huge to get a decent view, so I've ruled them out.

Many of the wide angle mirrors are too convex, and cars that are really quite close behind appear as an insignificant dot in the mirror. Initially it seems to be an attractive feature that you get all of the road in one view, but then you realise that you don't notice vehicles that are a hazard to you.

The plastic mirrors tend to be imperfectly made and distort the view. They are often tinted and give a dull image.

I find that the wide-angle of the Mirrycle is just about right. You don't see all of the road in one view, but you soon develop the habit of shifting slightly in your seat to expand the view.

The remaining problem is to fit a bar-end mirror to a dutch style handlebar. I don't have an Agattu but I do have an old Sparta non-electric bike, so I need to solve the problem. My first lash-up works but look awful.

Edited February 21, 200818 yr by Sector

Thanks secot !

I mgetting the pro-connect so I really dont know what type of handlebar it has, or what a may be able to fit to it.

I'm a fan of the Cateye mirrors, the BM500G in particular. Both this and the one Sector recommends can easily be fitted in the bar end of the Kalkhoff.

BM500G

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Hi Flecc,

I can't see how the Cateye or the mirror Sector mentions easily fits to the Agattu handlebars (dutch style). Do you have any pics demonstrating fitting?