A UK company which designs and manufactures here in the UK- ebike kits.

egroover

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£1k for a hub motor kit with a tiny battery ?
Bargain. I'll have one for me and 9 to sell on Ebay, I'm bound to make a killing.
 

Bosa

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£1k for a hub motor kit with a tiny battery ?
Bargain. I'll have one for me and 9 to sell on Ebay, I'm bound to make a killing.
£1k for a hub motor kit with a tiny battery ?
Bargain. I'll have one for me and 9 to sell on Ebay, I'm bound to make a killing.
Its not for everyone , and buying and supporting British companies is good.
Quick support if anything goes wrong all based here in the UK. Peace of mind
Some have got use to those cheap far east prices. I guess wages being paid here to make ebike kits is the right wage hence the price of the kit.

We need more manufacturing here in the UK across all industries.
We use to be leaders in the Bike industry.
 
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Bikes4two

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£1k for a kit isn't cheap and the battery can only be around 250wh (that's a guess as I didn't see the capacity on a quick look at their website).

And of course it's bespoke, so no adding your own battery or fixing problems and I've seen more than one post where customers haven't been over impressed with their customer service response.

Having said that, I know of three tandems in my home area that are very happy with their kit but I doubt that any of the tandems do more than a 1000 miles a year.

It is a neat piece of kit for sure and very minimalist.
 
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egroover

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£1k for a kit isn't cheap and the battery can only be around 250wh (that's a guess as I didn't see the capacity on a quick look at their website).

And of course it's bespoke, so no adding your own battery or fixing problems and I've seen more than one post where customers haven't been over impressed with their customer service response.

Having said that, I know of three tandems in my home area that are very happy with their kit but I doubt that any of the tandems do more than a 1000 miles a year.

It is a neat piece of kit for sure and very minimalist.
looks like a 198wh battery and up to 70 mile range with that. gotta love these range claims, must be ex VW engineers working for them
 

Bosa

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looks like a 198wh battery and up to 70 mile range with that. gotta love these range claims, must be ex VW engineers working for them
They offer test rides before purchase , and questions are there to be answered over the phone or email regarding range or anything else regarding their kit etc A bit nasty to put this UK company down when you have not seen , ridden any of their bikes or know anything about their product.
 

Bosa

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Can a Brompton with added electric assistance climb Mont Ventoux? With Cytronex it can!
 

Az.

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buying and supporting British companies is good.
I guess it is a bit like me supporting a football team. They want me to support them and their high salaries while they don't support me.

BTW is this company as British as Swytch?

We need more manufacturing here in the UK across all industries.
We use to be leaders in the Bike industry.
I couldn't agree more, but I would love prices to be more accessible. For now I think even chinese kits are overpriced. After all hub motors are not that complicated.
 

StuartsProjects

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Brompton and a British kit!
Yes, but the significant advantage of the Brompton is the pick up using the saddle and carry ability.

The battery\controller located on the top tube gets in the way since you may not be able to drop the saddle low enough for carrying and locking the fold.

Why did they not put the 'bottle battery\controller' on the Brompton front carrier block ?
 

egroover

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They offer test rides before purchase , and questions are there to be answered over the phone or email regarding range or anything else regarding their kit etc A bit nasty to put this UK company down when you have not seen , ridden any of their bikes or know anything about their product.
Not putting the company down, just fed up with these range claims. There should be some kind of benchmark parameters otherwise you can claim whatever you want. At least with the Bosch range finder calculator you can add rider weight, bike weight, terrain, rider effort, gear type, tyres etc to give you close to a real world value.
I've ridden my 418wh crossfire ebike in only eco mode on flat terrain and me putting a fair bit of effort and achieved 50 miles range, so how could a bike I convert with this system with a battery less than half the size give me up to 70 mile range?
 

Cadence

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It is a very well designed kit and I very nearly bought one, having spent weeks looking on the web at this one, Swytch, Geeko, Dillenger, Woosh, Yosepower and others. It is a neat looking job and if I wanted to electrify my vintage touring bike it would look very appropriate.
I kept trying to justify the cost to myself and supporting a British manufacturer at the same time.
Sadly, this is a perfect example of where British manufacturing is today. Innovative, but economies of scale and yes, overheads including wages, rule against it.
The more I learned about hub kits (thanks to this forum), the more I realised the limitations of the Cytronex kit.
Only 3 pas levels, no "walk assist" or throttle options, bespoke controller integrated into the bottle battery, bespoke (and minimal function) display, front hub motor only.
I don't doubt the quality of the kit (although I think the motor is Chinese anyway?) and the designer/business owner can be justifiably proud. There are a few examples online though, where his response to problems come across as, shall we say, "robustly protective".
In the end I sadly had to conclude that I could get a better kit (for me) at a much lower cost.
I understand that it has sold well over several years (although the numbers will be minimal in "world" terms). Such a shame really.
 
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Bosa

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One thing is for sure this company must being doing something right as they are still in business and customers are buying their product. Good on them I say .There kits are not for everyone.

More options for the UK customer the better.
 

Bosa

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It is a very well designed kit and I very nearly bought one, having spent weeks looking on the web at this one, Swytch, Geeko, Dillenger, Woosh, Yosepower and others. It is a neat looking job and if I wanted to electrify my vintage touring bike it would look very appropriate.
I kept trying to justify the cost to myself and supporting a British manufacturer at the same time.
Sadly, this is a perfect example of where British manufacturing is today. Innovative, but economies of scale and yes, overheads including wages, rule against it.
The more I learned about hub kits (thanks to this forum), the more I realised the limitations of the Cytronex kit.
Only 3 pas levels, no "walk assist" or throttle options, bespoke controller integrated into the bottle battery, bespoke (and minimal function) display, front hub motor only.
I don't doubt the quality of the kit (although I think the motor is Chinese anyway?) and the designer/business owner can be justifiably proud. There are a few examples online though, where his response to problems come across as, shall we say, "robustly protective".
In the end I sadly had to conclude that I could get a better kit (for me) at a much lower cost.
I understand that it has sold well over several years (although the numbers will be minimal in "world" terms). Such a shame really.
Which kit did you buy in the end ?
 

Bosa

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Not putting the company down, just fed up with these range claims. There should be some kind of benchmark parameters otherwise you can claim whatever you want. At least with the Bosch range finder calculator you can add rider weight, bike weight, terrain, rider effort, gear type, tyres etc to give you close to a real world value.
I've ridden my 418wh crossfire ebike in only eco mode on flat terrain and me putting a fair bit of effort and achieved 50 miles range, so how could a bike I convert with this system with a battery less than half the size give me up to 70 mile range?
Range depends on weight , terrain and the mode your in.