A 30mph crash fatality in something not tested or safe..

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

Because hopefully you have not killed anyone.
And yes the posts are not proof. A jury convicts on evidence. It would be used as such.
What's more to point your posts give impression using dongles is acceptable. It is not.

 

[SRS]

Hang on a minute here.
Aren,t we just waiting for the inevitable ???
If S pedelecs were legal , fine, but fact is they are not.
Only today somebody posted about 15 of his mates all riding dongled bikes .
Just ask yourselves the obvious question. Had this incident, or one like it, involved one of these motorbikes where would it leave pedelecs???
With the number of folk using dongles its only a matter of time.
Its not if it happens its when. 200 plus cyclists died last year on uk roads. How long before some lawyer looks for excuses to mitigate a driver ( or rider)

Why don't we all agree to shut the F up with regard to the dongle issue.
It's supposed to be a Pedelec forum not a moaning git forum.

 

[Yamdude]

Why don't we all agree to shut the F up with regard to the dongle issue.
It's supposed to be a Pedelec forum not a moaning git forum.

Amen to that...... Its becoming like groundhog day on here.

 

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

I totally agree but you all must have missed thread on "Badass Dongle".( In technical )
The one with Soubdwaves now infamous canal run, and new poster out running cars, getting max speed approaching 40mph ..
If you are so sick if it why not tell them ..its threads and posts like that which will do damage..( he came on here to find out where to buy one)
Read it. Its scary.
You really are moaning at the wrong folk.
And the comment about this being a pedelec Forum is spot on. Dongles are on motorbikes.

 

[falmouthtony]

Why don't we all agree to shut the F up with regard to the dongle issue.
It's supposed to be a Pedelec forum not a moaning git forum.

Amen again....It does get a little tedious.

I'm sure we are all aware of the two camps.

The more one responds to the other the more the other goads.

I used to find this forum interesting.

 

[falmouthtony]

I totally agree but you all must have missed thread on "Badass Dongle".
The one with Soubdwaves now infamous canal run, and new poster out running cars, getting max speed approaching 40mph ..
If you are so sick if it why not tell them ..its threads and posts like that which will do damage..( he came on here to find out where to buy one)
Read it. Its scary.

I sense that if you ignore them there will probably be far fewer of them.

 

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

I sense that if you ignore them there will probably be far fewer of them.

I partly agree with that. Trouble is folk do turn to this Forun as to where to go to buy them. That really should stop.
There are reasons to think this forum is more damaging to pedelec use than actually not having it.
Perhaps we should try self policing, ie if we failed to respond to requests for help in making pedelecs illegal and asked those that do not to.
Read the "Badass Dongle" thread and decide yourself if that's right. There are plenty of other examples.

Its quite ironic that my posts and to a lesser degree Morphix get the " shut the F up" , and similar and worse, and all the yawns etc etc but the actually damaging posts/ threads attract no insults whatsoever ??
Are folk actually condoning and supporting illegal behaviour that will result in changes to all our detriment.??? Would posters criticizing us actually advise folk how to make bikes illegal ??? I don't think they would.

 

[Yamdude]

I totally agree but you all must have missed thread on "Badass Dongle".( In technical )
The one with Soubdwaves now infamous canal run, and new poster out running cars, getting max speed approaching 40mph ..
If you are so sick if it why not tell them ..its threads and posts like that which will do damage..( he came on here to find out where to buy one)
Read it. Its scary.
You really are moaning at the wrong folk.
And the comment about this being a pedelec Forum is spot on. Dongles are on motorbikes.

You're getting really boring.... you constantly spew the same crap over and over and over again. You've made your point, repeating it ad nauseum just pisses people off.
People always talk about S pedelecs, dongles & the like on here... get used to it.

 

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

I,m afraid this Forum is no longer a Pedelec forum.

 

[falmouthtony]

I,m afraid this Forum is no longer a Pedelec forum.

Have you not noticed that you're posting in a sub forum headed up SPEED PEDELECS?

Please try and stop re-inventing the wheel. The forum managed to get along before you arrived on 9 March this year.

Just give it a rest.

 

[soundwave]

flud you old fart stop moaning if never had a dongle and went out with my m8s id might as well not bother.

on the flat can go 20mph plus on a fs bike and keep it there and down hill can hit 60mph on his full dh bike.

if you dont want to go faster than 15mph then why did you get a mtb in the first place?

 

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

Sorry SW, there must be some reasoned point in there somewhere, afraid its lost on me.

 

[soundwave]

race the racing bikes

 

[Fordulike]

" I predict everyone will be riding 50mph S-Pedelecs by 2017 "

 

[Geebee]

A woman ended up dead in one in a head-on collision with a car, at not excessive speed.

The article does not come up for me but, if it was a head on collision would not the impact speed be a lot faster than the Gwizz speed alone ie 30 mph plus 30 mph = 60 mph collision?

 

[anotherkiwi]

I was wondering what all the fuss is about so I looked up the microcar in question - in France these are limited to 45 kmh the same top speed as an s-pedelec. When they get in crashes it is messy I think I posted about one where a family of four died in a road accident in a Microcar or other Axam? The twizy has been crash tested to hell because there is an 85 km/h version. As a result it is very overweight and under performing (range not speed).

Oh yeah the Renault F1 boys have built a special version of the twizy that would get the anti dongle brigades knickers in a right twist...

 

[Artstu]

How ironic that the owner of a Sinclair C5 should be worried about other peoples safety.

 

[(NoLongerRegistered#15675)]

Have you not noticed that you're posting in a sub forum headed up SPEED PEDELECS?

Please try and stop re-inventing the wheel. The forum managed to get along before you arrived on 9 March this year.

Just give it a rest.

??? Where else would a discussion about dongles/ quadracycles go ??

I,m afraid I,ve no intention of giving it a rest.
There are many others on here doing far more damage to pedelecs
than my rants could ever do. Perhaps your posts should be aimed at them ??

If you are bored with it ,why read thread ?

Going back on topic, the testers would not allow good crash test dummies in cars mentioned. They used older , cheaper dummies. They didn't want the good ones damaged ???!!!

 

[trex]

I partly agree with that. Trouble is folk do turn to this Forun as to where to go to buy them. That really should stop.
There are reasons to think this forum is more damaging to pedelec use than actually not having it.
Perhaps we should try self policing, ie if we failed to respond to requests for help in making pedelecs illegal and asked those that do not to.
Read the "Badass Dongle" thread and decide yourself if that's right. There are plenty of other examples.

Its quite ironic that my posts and to a lesser degree Morphix get the " shut the F up" , and similar and worse, and all the yawns etc etc but the actually damaging posts/ threads attract no insults whatsoever ??
Are folk actually condoning and supporting illegal behaviour that will result in changes to all our detriment.??? Would posters criticizing us actually advise folk how to make bikes illegal ??? I don't think they would.

I support you.

 

[dinger19]

??? Where else would a discussion about dongles/ quadracycles go ??

I,m afraid I,ve no intention of giving it a rest.
There are many others on here doing far more damage to pedelecs
than my rants could ever do. Perhaps your posts should be aimed at them ??

If you are bored with it ,why read thread ?

The first sentence is is part correct about dongles,but not anti dongles like you and Morphix.

If you keep preaching at any given opportunity the only harm you will be doing is you will lose all credibility if you have not done so already.

And as to use a persons death for your crusade is absolutely disgusting and it makes you worse than the members on here that do use dongles.