905se photograph link to china

[frank9755]

Thanks David for your reply and extremely detailed information, and congratulations on the police order. Congratulations also on putting together an excellent line-up, from the competitively priced entry model up.

Seeing as you ask what we think, what I would most like for Christmas would be a cross between three of your bikes.

From the basic 905 I'd take:
no front suspension, basic Shimano bits, no disk brakes,

...with the power system from the 905se Sport
13.8a 36v Li ion, 250w brushless, 7 gears, hand throttle, off/on switch on handle bars, off road turbo switch,

...and some trimmings from the City:
full polycarbonate mud guards, rack

Effectively that would be your top of the range performer but without the bells and whistles like disk brakes, suspension forks and over-specced components which, at best, don't add to its appeal as a cyclists bike. If you made that model, which could be priced towards the upper end of your range, I'd order one tomorrow!

The questions which I guess you have implicitly answered with this range are:
'Do people need to be offered the bells and whistles to induce them to pay the premium for the better performing bike?' and
'Can a bike justify premium pricing based on selling the benefits of better performance?'
Obviously, where the answer to the first is no or the second is yes, you are sacrificing margin by providing the bells and whistles!

Frank

 

[allotmenteer]

From the basic 905 I'd take:
no front suspension, basic Shimano bits, no disk brakes,

...with the power system from the 905se Sport
13.8a 36v Li ion, 250w brushless, 7 gears, hand throttle, off/on switch on handle bars, off road turbo switch,

...and some trimmings from the City:
full polycarbonate mud guards, rack


Frank

I'd second that. No point paying for Shimano XT components on an electric bike. Same with disk brakes, unless they are top quality any half-decent v-brake is better.

 

[flecc]

The only person not looked after is the keen cyclist who doesn't want suspension and disc brakes but likes the 905se City or Sport specifications otherwise.
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And I'll also second that, roughly like my previous posting quoted above.

I said in the next post that there was only a small market for such a bike, but perhaps it's bigger than I suspected. For me that's very encouraging, since the emphasis on suspended MTBs in the marketplace I've long found depressing.
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[Steven Brandist]

Independent press reviews

David,

Thanks for info - the 905se Sport looks particularly interesting.
What I'd like to see (and probably a lot of other people) is a review by A to B magazine. I know that a few manufacturers / importers are reluctant to do this as A to B can be hard on products that don't perform, or they simply just don't like them. However, if you are confident with your product then there is nothing to loose, a good review can result in a lot of sales.

Steven

 

[Wisper Bikes]

Riders bike

Thanks David for your reply and extremely detailed information, and congratulations on the police order. Congratulations also on putting together an excellent line-up, from the competitively priced entry model up.

Seeing as you ask what we think, what I would most like for Christmas would be a cross between three of your bikes.

From the basic 905 I'd take:
no front suspension, basic Shimano bits, no disk brakes,

...with the power system from the 905se Sport
13.8a 36v Li ion, 250w brushless, 7 gears, hand throttle, off/on switch on handle bars, off road turbo switch,

...and some trimmings from the City:
full polycarbonate mud guards, rack

Effectively that would be your top of the range performer but without the bells and whistles like disk brakes, suspension forks and over-spec'd components which, at best, don't add to its appeal as a cyclists bike. If you made that model, which could be priced towards the upper end of your range, I'd order one tomorrow!

The questions which I guess you have implicitly answered with this range are:
'Do people need to be offered the bells and whistles to induce them to pay the premium for the better performing bike?' and
'Can a bike justify premium pricing based on selling the benefits of better performance?'
Obviously, where the answer to the first is no or the second is yes, you are sacrificing margin by providing the bells and whistles!

Frank

Hi Frank, superb point, thanks!

I have forwarded your comments (and those pf Flecc, Allotmenteer and Steven) to my partners as I believe their is a market for such a bike, I too feel the suspension and disk brakes are more about marketing than ride. I would however put decent dérailleur and gear components onto it.

Best regards David