3 maybe 4 to choose from, experiences and thoughts ?

[01423frankieboy]

OK ! I have seen 3 or 4 that I like and would like to know of peoples experiences of these please. Buying process; riding; satisfaction and any problems especially if you have owned them for a while.

1/ Woosh Big Bear

2/ Ezee sprint primo

3/ Kudos secret

4/ Woosh sirocco 2 / Kudos Duke.

Also tell me the best and worst thing about owning your first electric bike. Try to keep it to sentence or two!

 

[trex]

Ezee Sprint Primo. Well made, does the job, excellent support. What else do you want?

 

[Kudoscycles]

OK ! I have seen 3 or 4 that I like and would like to know of peoples experiences of these please. Buying process; riding; satisfaction and any problems especially if you have owned them for a while.

1/ Woosh Big Bear

2/ Ezee sprint primo

3/ Kudos secret

4/ Woosh sirocco 2 / Kudos Duke.

Also tell me the best and worst thing about owning your first electric bike. Try to keep it to sentence or two!

Best thing...once you get used to riding in a higher gear than with a non assisted bike its a wonderful feeling of cruising along effortlessly on a hot day but cool because of the breeze.
Worst thing....they are getting lighter but its still a heavy lump to move around when loading in a car or on the back of a camper.
KudosDave

 

[flecc]

Why dither, buy all five. Then you'll never be wondering if you made the right choice.

First ebike:

Best thing, made tougher runs and trailer pulling easier.

Worst thing, made me lose fitness for unpowered cycling.
.

 

[SuperPad]

I got a Kalkhoff Agattu in 2011 or so.
Best: It got me back cycling (after decades) and getting exercise
Worst: I still get sweaty if I have to wear rain-gear or do a long climb.

I'm also now considering a Big Bear as I now climb 100m (over the last 4 miles) going to work and arrive kinda sweaty -- so I'm interested in others' findings.

 

[Helen C]

I've had my first ebike for a few weeks now.
Best thing: not worrying which way/how hard the wind is blowing when you decide to go out.
Worst thing: not having enough time to go as far as I'd like every time.
Go!od luck
Helen

 

[Jimod]

Best thing, being able to go good distances and not worry about hills.
Worst thing, emmmm nothing.

 

[EddiePJ]

Best thing.. Buying an e-bike gave me a new interest and opened up my horizons.

Worst thing... I went against my instincts and didn't take note of what I had read elsewhere, and went ahead and bought an BH Easy Motion product.

 

[Gubbins]

65 year old male. Scott/Bosch MTB, 18 months and 2500 miles! Best thing? Complete freedom to go absolutely anywhere the mood takes me. Worst thing? The weight! When I visit me old mother I can't carry it up the stairs.

 

[MarkTheGoose]

@EddiePJ - sounds like you regret buying BH Easy Motion. Why & what did you buy? Was considering Neo 650B Hardtail - should I look elsewhere?

 

[EddiePJ]

I'll let you make your own mind up.

Constant error codes from day one.
Rear hub bearing failure within the first 100 miles.
Two replacement motors.
Broken wire within frame system. BH tried to blame me for this. I blame poor original bike assembly.
Peeling paint.
The motor surged badly from time to time, and did not always cut out.
Integrated braze-on lugs that spin within the frame.
Two batteries, and even then the second one failed and the bike was going to need a third.
Non working regen. It isn't even possible for the geared up to have a functioning regen, so BH should be doing a lot of refunds.
Cracked console, due to poor screw alignment.
Broken console mount x2. These crack if you just at them the wrong way.
No difference in speed modes.
Front forks that corroded badly after just months, then stopped functioning altogether. I had to buy my own replacement forks as BH UK couldn't even get that right!
A disgraceful after care service from BH UK.
Months without any use of the bike.
It was only my tracking down the private email details for the MD of BH Spain, that anything at all got sorted with the bike. I now no longer thankfully own it.

The BH NEO XTREM that I purchased made for a better door stop than it did a functional e-bike, and there isn't enough money in the World to ever persuade me to own another BH product.

Give your hard earned money to either a KTM dealer or Haibike dealer.

Take a test ride on one of these. http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/ktm-corner.19044/page-3#post-239406

 

[D8ve]

Balancing Eddie
I have had two BH race Panasonic drives. Sold the 24volt to upgrade to 36 volt system. Both were great for me.
Second one Unfortunately destroyed by 4*4. Used motor to rebuild a Kalhoff pro. Good bike and reliable with 8 speed hub.
Wife has BH Neo. The display can give errors it's best screwed on and left.

Down side to electric is bikes spin out at slow speed so no more than 20..

But now on recumbent that is happy at 20 on flat and too fast down hill.

 

[MarkTheGoose]

Thank you Eddie & Dave. It's the look of the Neo that's doing it for me (I'm too vain). The whole integrated battery. I'm surprised more manufacturers haven't gone down this route. I'm off for my first test ride of a pedelec today. Based exclusively on what I've read, current shortlist is...
KTM eRace P 27
Haibike Sduro Hardseven
Oxygen e-Mate MTB 13AH

That said, I've not tried the difference between hub & crank, so today is trying the KTM with both Panasonic hub & Bosch crank drives to get an idea of which suits.

On my shortlist, the Oxygen is significantly less expensive, for apparently more. Begs the question is it another BH...

 

[EddiePJ]

I fully understand your thoughts about the battery integration, and that above anything else, was what drew me to the NEO range. Having the KTM e-Cross P on test for a week or so, I very quickly didn't even really notice the battery, but obviously unlike the BH, there is no getting away from the fact that it was an electric bike.

D8ve is the person to speak to about Oxygen bikes. I know very little about them, but it's very doubtful that I would put them in the same corner as BH when it comes to dealing with issues over warranty. Perhaps existing Oxygen owners could answer that one.

I'd still have the KTM e-Race P over the Oxygen any day, especially now that the KTM is fitted with Rockshox forks. Taking just the front forks as an example, you could buy three sets of the Oxygen's budget Suntour XCT forks, compared to the KTM's higher quality XC32 TK27 and I'd imagine that if you worked back through the whole component list, that the KTM would soon work out better value, and far more durable as an mtb. Conveniently Oxygen also don't state how much that the bike weighs, which is something to consider if you want to use the bike as an mtb, as is coil only front forks, and the cable routing lugs which would irritate the hell out of me if I had to carry the bike in an off road situation. The frame geometry angles have also conveniently been left omitted. As an end user I have become very cynical of companies that don't state key areas in relation to component spec and detail, preferring to state only the brand name instead. The only reason that I see to do this, is if you have something to hide.

The 2015 KTM range can be found here. http://www.ktm-bikes.at/en/bikes/e-bike.html

 

[trex]

if I were today in the market for a ready made bike, I'd look at the £899 woosh Zephyr-B rather than the Big Bear. It has same motor, controller, LCD but rear wheel drive, lighter, nicer weight distribution, hydraulic front and rear and you can shove it in the boot of your car because it can fold in halves.

 

[MarkTheGoose]

So, I understand some more now having ridden some eBikes. Tried both the Active & Performance Bosch cranks on a KTM & Scott. The bike that I enjoyed the most though was the Neo Jumper! All tests on road, but bad surface & with a 10% gradient. More thinking to do and I do really want to try the Panasonic KTM...

 

[Wicky]

KTM ERace P 29 Extremely satisfied and highly recommended - Excels on hill climbing. When going up hill instead of changing down the gears you go up and relax the pedalling till you hit a sweet spot with the motor assistance that propels you up at 14-15mph.