2017 KTM news...

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

My understanding of the reasons why KTM haven't gone down the fully integrated route is that you have to modify the battery casing, which means its not just the stock Bosch battery.

So you're then into all the pro's and cons of having what is essentially a bespoke battery.

 

[Crockers]

My understanding of the reasons why KTM haven't gone down the fully integrated route is that you have to modify the battery casing, which means its not just the stock Bosch battery.

So you're then into all the pro's and cons of having what is essentially a bespoke battery.

Thanks for getting back so promptly.

 

[RobF]

Some of the newer Bosch bikes have a partly integrated battery - the downtube is shaped like a shallow tray.

The Moustache appears to be like that.

I'm not sure if any Bosch bikes are fully integrated.

As Col says, Bosch stuff is notoriously locked down in many respects.

It might be possible to fit a Bosch motor with a third party designed battery.

But it wouldn't surprise me if Bosch insist on using their batteries as a condition of supplying the motor on trade terms to the manufacturer.

 

[Wander]

Some of the newer Bosch bikes have a partly integrated battery - the downtube is shaped like a shallow tray.

The Moustache appears to be like that.

Doesn't seem to be much online yet about the new Moustache. Looking at this (translated) link though they say:-
The major innovation of the coming year is the development of a whole range equipped with a new type of aluminum and carbon framework that integrates the battery, the concept of "hidden power".

With that in mind & saving & zooming in on this image:-

I'm thinking that maybe a standard Bosch battery fits inside the frame & the black bit is possibly a cover.

Although I admire Moustache & find the quality of their bikes fantastic I wouldn't have thought they were big enough for Bosch to develop a separately cased battery.

Time will tell no doubt ....

 

[Wander]

I'm thinking that maybe a standard Bosch battery fits inside the frame & the black bit is possibly a cover.

Although I admire Moustache & find the quality of their bikes fantastic I wouldn't have thought they were big enough for Bosch to develop a separately cased battery.

Found some pictures:-

Looks like it is a standard Bosch battery.

 

[Crockers]

Don't like that arrangement.....can see why KTM haven't followed suit. Thanks for photos.

 

[Wander]

Don't like that arrangement.....can see why KTM haven't followed suit. Thanks for photos.

My prediction - This time next year when manufacturers are announcing their 2018 range they'll all be doing similar.

 

[EddiePJ]

Don't like that arrangement.

I agree. It just makes the frame big bulky and ugly.

As I said a few days ago, I have yet to see a Moustache bike that I would want to own. They just don't do it for me.

 

[soundwave]

is that cover stuck on to the batt with Velcro ?

 

[Wander]

is that cover stuck on to the batt with Velcro ?

Yeh looks like it! But I would guess that this is most probably a pre-production mock up. All (final) Moustache bikes I've seen have absolutely beautiful engineering.

 

[Yamdude]

Bit of a joke really to call it an integrated battery when they just make the downtube massive to swallow it up.

 

[Wander]

Bit of a joke really to call it an integrated battery when they just make the downtube massive to swallow it up.

Yeh fair point, although it does make a move towards the best of both worlds - a 'hidden' ish battery which actually uses a standard (Bosch) battery inside.

 

[EddiePJ]

You mean that it's neither one thing nor the other.

In this context, pointless.

 

[Crockers]

Looks very much that if you want an integrated battery you need to look at a Brose motored BH, Bulls, Specialized or the Giant Yamahas. Jhn

 

[Wander]

You mean that it's neither one thing nor the other.

In this context, pointless.

Eddie, we all know that you will only drool over something with a KTM logo.

So here I've found this for you:-

 

[EddiePJ]

Not actually true, but I do happen to think that Moustache bikes are very over priced, over rated and nothing that special.

 

[Wander]

Not actually true, but I do happen to think that Moustache bikes are very over priced, over rated and nothing that special.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

Thanks for getting back so promptly.

Here's the integrated one for you.. Full new Shimano system, out at some point in 2017.

Can't say much more than that at the moment.

 

[Crockers]

Here's the integrated one for you.. Full new Shimano system, out at some point in 2017.

Can't say much more than that at the moment.

Looking good

 

[soundwave]

Bosch Purion Display any idea when i can get one off these?