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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgkl4x5e2no

To be fair modern motorcycles and less than modern cars often use ride/drive by wire for their throttles. Simple electronic position sensors that give information to the ECU to decide what to do.

+ the £600 a month PIP

It won't be allowed on cyclepaths just like a moped. Is the 500W idea just to reduce the diameter of the rear hub? Because most that I've seen are still quite big. 250W rated will comfortably run at 22mph if set up correctly. You just can't get a cheap one.

Hahaha fair cop! I suppose I mean off the street in my local area. NIMBYs unite! :D

As in it's perfectly safe to put 800W through a 250W rated motor. With the necessary adjustments.

Again this is correct. Not sure why you are suggesting with tongue in cheek.

Yes that's what I was suggesting earlier. Albeit 800W.

I'm not sure if you are replying to the right person, but I never said legal = safe and illegal = unsafe.

Usually? No. However, sting operations have been happening all over the country for several years now with most of them in London. They will stop every ebike they see to inspect and seize and fine any that don't conform which would include yours. You can look up the punishments and consequences...

Exactly this. If you choose to follow the gov page instead you will have to run your 48V controller at a maximum of 5.2A. That definitely won't be fun at parties. Or you could choose to put around 800W through a 250W rated motor like most of us here and be perfectly legal and safe.

What is a "Stealth Bomber"? I've always wondered if it's based on the power or shape of the bicycle.

My chinese built hub motor wheel looked like that after its first winter.

I'm not familiar with that beverage, I can't quite read it because your houseplants are in the way :D

https://www.pswpower.com/products/eu-no-tax-electric-bicycle-battery-hailong-g70-18650-cells-pack-48v-13ah-48v-145ah-48v-175ah-lithium-ebike-battery-fits-1000w-motor-bafang-tsdz2-ton-192

I would love a maxi scoot as running costs are not far from a 50 and they are much more capable and comfortable. But it's not worth it for me for an extra couple hundred a year in insurance costs. I used to e-cycle/throttle my route to work on small country lanes and max 30mph town roads so the...

I also have a full license and considered a 250ish cc. It really came down to the insurance as a 49cc was good enough as free whereas anything bigger added £100s to my premium. This is my commuter so purely came down to cost.

Unfortunately it is true. My DIY ebike had a dinner plate Chinese DD rear hub and a 52V 20Ah battery with LG cells and throttle only; proper Deliveroo spec. The controller was rated at 35A, you can do the maths. It did still have working pedals but wasn't at all legal to use on the road. It was...