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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry I,ve been away a few days Tom, delivering a boat, well more like a Barge, to Rotterdam ( biggest port in the world) from Hull. Never saw OG either, well at least that went well, better than passage anyhow. Amazes me how you can be sat in one of nicest settings in the world , nipped up to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Wasn't about Brexit either, just another pro Russia commercial.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think I,ll keep it up OG...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "Viktor Yushchenko: Ukraine's ex-president on being poisoned Ukraine's former president Viktor Yushchenko says he hopes Europe will wake up to the threat posed by Russia in the wake of the poisonings in Salisbury. Fourteen years ago Mr Yushchenko was taking on a presidential candidate...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    "I don't want that, remember my reminder that the majority get it wrong?" Well the majority nearly always win an election. Cant remember when they pronounced winner as any other. As to rest of your comment, suspect its exactly why we are where we are.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You can call it whatever you like but I,d rather have a compromised Labour government than current . Its rather ling odds current Labour ever getting in, but time will tell. Having best ideals and policies out of power is futile and besides we should all hope for a government which represents...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Many paid the £5 but their memberships remain , even if in arrears.. They have to apply to leave. Flecc Give what up ? I dont hate Corbyn at all, I hate the fact ee dont have either a labour government or a labour party capable of gaining power, when with right policies and leader we could have...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It may well be , who knows. Google " members leaving labour party" and figures vary by large amounts. The number leaving doesn't affect point tho. Seems strange that folk willing to donate to party simply leave, making situation worse, (last month folk were leaving ovrr Corbyn's Brexit stance...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    OG. Is this entire post a quote or some of it yours. Afraid it confuses me almost as much as Labour does itself...( Ambiguity intended) Read this morning 17,000 Labour members have left over the anti Semitic row. That's plain crazy, they don't like what's happening so hand the party to very folk...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So they sent for 150 military personnel before consulting PD. In other words they waited for 2 weeks before consulting PD. Where on earth do you get this from flecc. Its utter nonsense flecc. How on earth do you know when Portland Down got involved ? Its you that will believe anything. Quote...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I suspect collective brain washing is going on on here. Are some posters actually saying Portland Down were not involved until after 14 th..? You,ll believe anything. Like I said earlier you actually dont think Portland Down were involved from the start ? Police , doctors etc etc all in Noddy...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The poisoning happened on 4th March. May made her announcement on the 14th. What do you think was going on over those 4 days ??? Portland Down are minutes away, doctors, police etc etc knew within an hour or so something unusual was going on. PD will have had samples by evening of 10th. So why...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So how do you know when PD got a sample. ? Check the date May made announcement ? Are you suggesting nothing happened between event and announcement.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What about Chelsea supporters' prayers ?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Perhaps not but rightly or wrongly he is pro Palestinian.( but perhaps he should be ? Can you be pro Palestine without being anti Jew ???) As labour leader he just should not be going there. Its lose lose and unfortunately he,s lost.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So in effect your judgement of May, regards speaking before knowing facts, is based on the opinion of Craig Murray, who was forced to resign in 2004 as an ambassador in USSR. Since when he has become a liberal mp and actually knows no more about current situation than you or I. I choose not to...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry Flecc I cant differentiate between your quote and ordinary text in here? Are you saying this revelation was from a friend or written in a journal, web site or paper. I cant really see. And BTW Novichok was developed in Russia but tested in Uzbekistan. ( from an Article in Guardian by...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes,my anology is extreme but you get my point.Proof is very hard to achieve. You have not quoted a source for your quote ??? ( Portland down getting arms twisted and officials reporting Novichok prior to investigation by PD ?) The only place I,ve read that is on here ??? Since you haven't...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's all completely different to contradicting suggested evidence for this case. As for your question, I have no idea. My opinion is whilst killings have been stranglings, falls and apparent suicides. ( a suicide with 10 wound sites?) powers that be have been happy to let it go but Novichok...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And doing nothing could aswell. Your reasoning is exactly why I think May knows. This isn't Argentina she,s arguing with. Have you visited your cousin in NZ ? Could all be just a trick OG. May be he/ she has simply gone to live in York or somewhere. That's not definitive proof at all. We can...