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Complete Blank... There's a joke there about OG but I, m not saying it... Sorry OG...

Just one question Ghengis what are "snaf" families. Is it an acronym I, ve missed. You do have a point though. My nightmare when I worked (honest OG, Tom I used to) was volunteer help... After 2 hrs they always knew more than colleagues who had trained for years and then had 20 years on job...

??? Perhaps they should start reading manifestos. If it was really case we would never change parties. And yes it might be case but that doesn't make either argument valid. If people don't read manifesto or they do and ignore it they can't really moan when the parties involved carry out the...

No, I don't think they do. But who knows. We can all only speak of how we vote. I think in GE people vote for a governing power/pm/party. Personally couldn't care less who my representive is, just which side of house she sits on in HoC.. I struggled voting for Labour because of Corbyn's...

Yep, you have a point.. Thing is tho there is no strategic thinking ever from Labour.. They just make themselves an easy target for rags like DM. Its endemic from Corbyn all way down. Of course Tory media is going to exaggerate but why on earth make their jobs so easy..???? Campbell and Blair...

Pull your trousers up OG. Your ego is showing..

https://mol.im/a/6522061 Another vote winner for Labour. What a shower...

You tell us what you are paid in now then..?

I, d guess New Zealand Dollar.

No, I think thousands vote without reading manifestos. Well millions in fact. He has said all along that's exactly what he would do. Why the surprise...??? And JC could negotiate a better deal? I wonder how? He won't get in anyway.

Exactly , your personal battle, not the strategic war, which you ignored and hoped for best. In fact you hoped for Corbyn to do the very opposite of that promised in his manifesto. Its like voting for Corbyn and expecting him to lower taxes when he has promised to raise them. I, m surprised...

That's the very bit I disagree with. Why even bother having or reading or writing a manifesto. Rather vote in hope I suppose. And I didn't say all of manifesto. Just the major over riding elements. Like leave or stay last time.

I was really speaking of what they should be obliged to do... Tend to agree with you but can't really see how we can remain without a massive change. My bet would be on no deal at moment.. May's deal 2nd...Rrmain 3rd...but we, ll see.

Totally agreed and if we really had a democracy parliament would either endorse May's deal or crash out. Let's face it over 80% of them are there with leave in their own parties manifestos. I, m not sure how constitutionally they can do any other. If they don't it makes a mockery of entire system.

Of course it does on prime things like leave or remain. It's a principal founding belief at the moment. It's part of the parties identity. You are arguing not about taxing certain groups or bringing in educational reform. It was the major issue on voters minds. The major issue of the last GE...

I didn't. But you don't know what remainers wishes are any better than I know leavers. And the subject was the manifesto. Specifically the Labour one. You voted for a party that stated.. "Freedom of movement will end when we leave the EU" Yet you seem surprised, dismayed, worried...

No flecc it's you talking rubbish and wriggling to justify your biased stance toward remaining, which if you were truly interested in achieving should have voted for a party wanting to provide your wishes. Why expect either Tory or Labour to provide you with a remain when they have made...

By the logic of a remainer. Leavers would say exactly the opposite. ie) Leave no deal would make 52 % ofl those that cared to vote happy.

No it is not. Had the issue been so controversial voters would have deserted both major parties. Your argument only makes sense if the point in question isn't a major vote winner/loser. Suppose both major parties had compulsory euthanasia at 60...Vince Cable would now be pm. That's how the...

Because May's deal isn't through parliament and probably won't get through with or without a majority in another ref..