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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think you are missing the elephant in room now OG. Assume Art50 was rescinded, Brexit cancelled, exactly who then wins next, probably forced, GE. Cancelling Brexit would now solve nothing. It would leave country equally split and MPs not having a clue how and what to canvass on. Lets face it...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    We are a cheery lot on this beautiful morning. Taking grandkids out on boat this pm, then perhaps jetski, then fire BBQ up for some nice steaks and a couple of beers with mates... Hard life... I, ll let you lot sort our Brexit, Global warming, pollution, human extinction and feeding us all. Not...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Irrespective of the reality of situation how many have actually changed anything they do. That fool Thompson spent £5k each way to fly over to help cause for Rebellion Extinction. Flew back in business class tucking into beef. Goes beyond hypocrisy. How many on here jump to attack OJ and then...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Get wife to drive..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, ve always thought Faeage was just a ridiculous bit player whose influence over voting had been exaggerated by both sides with him encouraging those thoughts. I, ve always been very worried about Corbyn and current labour getting into power, economic damage they wouuld cause would far out...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Isnt that the case with all MEPs?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What a night for football. Incredible. Didnt think last night could be beaten, but it has been. Thanks Spurs... and Liverpool... And thats from somebody who has supported MUFC since 1968... Best 2 matches I can ever remember for drama, entertainment and commitment from players. A credit to the...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its never been actually walking away that benefits anyone, plainly it does not, rather its the threat of doing so and other side thinking you might if deal isnt good enough. The EU has known from the start we had no intention of ever walking away, this being proved when no deal was removed from...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think you, ll find Guardian has been slated plenty of times by many over last three years. Because a couple insist on quoting it doesnt mean the rest of us believe it, or any other publication. They all have some axe to grind. All of them.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What about the police man he head butted who tried to stop him hitting his girlfriend??? Do you really believe folk get sent to prison under circumstances you describe. As for being brought up amongst wrong crowd. That as never been either an excuse or justification. Millions of folk throughout...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Are you saying he was innocent? Perhaps we should scrap our justice system and simply hold trial on facebook, Twitter. Just hold a vote to prove innocence. I believe he has served 3 gaol terms. https://www.the-round.co.uk/charges-on-tommy-robinson-rap-sheet/ ?????
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No, he does not represent free speech, he is a perfect example of our countries allowance of it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Thats why we have coursts VFR. TR has been found guilty of various crimes, sentenced and served time I believe 3 times. Hardly a recommendation and chances of a jury getting it so wrong on 3 occasions are rather slim. I agree media cant be believed but my faith in justice system is rather...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    It was, and we, ve been there before, but fact is TR came to offer his advice in Town and it was emphatically refused. He has no answers and I hardly think a bloke with his prison record, beliefs and actions is ever going to help. Quite the reverse. He wanted to stir up trouble and failed. Dont...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Give it up VFR. You, ve made your point. Yes, perhaps TR isnt as bad as made out but even if he isnt quite so bad, why support, promote him. His history is perfectly enough to prevent him ever gaining mainstream support. Farage is trying to distance himself from TR, I suggest you take a step...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I dont think its a north south thing... EDL tried to muster support in Rotherham after our grooming problem came to fore... They got booed / heckled all way through town. Tommy Robinson is just a minor distraction, irritant. He will never get mainstream support. Dont understand VFR giving him...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Dont break the ceasefire OG, come on, be a good boy. Things have been quite pleasant in here for a while...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep, watched it... Couldnt really see connection.... to his guilt in quite a few cases...Not exactly a defence, justification or mitigation... I suppose that was your point..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    VFR... Think you are becoming a champion of lost causes. Reading TR's Wiki/Google search presents quite a nasty person. (assaulted a police officer who came to aid of TR's then girl friend as TR was assaulting her) . He, s been involved in a serious fraud and served time for both incidents. . He...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Each to his own OG.. Fair post BTW, understand your reasoning.... But dont agree. We, ve all learnt a lot over last couple of years and we, ve learned a lot about our politicians.