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Listened to most of the "leaders" tonight. What a state we are in when at end of evening Farage spoke most sense. Yes, as usual Corbyn says all right things but never a word about how to achieve anything. Its Walter Mitty politics. Spend on everyrhing, tax the rich, tax the companies, get a...

How will Corbyn negotiate a better deal? Why wont Corbyn say wether he, d support or campaign against the deal he, d negotiate? Bonkers. He, d negotiate a deal and then vote against it??

OG I assume you, ll now be voting for Labour from you last post? I actually agree Tories played their part in destroying British industry, the combined incompetence of both Parties gave British Industry little chance of real progress. (I actually worked for BL in early 70's and witnessed the...

I think its Flecc with pink tinted glasses rather than you in blinkers when it comes to Corbyn...

Comparing Attlee to Corbyn is actually insulting to all Attlee achieved and what a statesman he was. And they always forget 2 things... Attlee instigated our nuclear detterent. (Corbyn couldnt make the decision to either cancel Trident or instigate it if we didnt have it) And secondly... As much...

What you, ve been abused by some film studio magnate... Kept that quiet 50...

Dont forget 50's appreciation of Yorkshire folk, Northerners in general and specifically those from Barnsley... To be fair 50's comments are so over top they can hardly be taken seriously. He does have rather a shotgun approach with his prejudices... But shotguns dont have much range..

Yes, we, ve noticed.

Its mine...

Good, but that is hardly unique now is it?

Accepting Israel exists as a fact is a given and has nothing at all to do with accepting its legitamacy. You still failed to answer the question, perhaps you dont understand it. You, ve skirted around the issue. I do not support Israel's actions on many many instances over past years but do...

Gove in real world? Who is being daft this morning?

Yes, I do understand. You have yet again failed to answer the salient question. You have inferred in past you question the right of the State of Israel to exist. I asked you last time and you failed to clarify the point. Obviously all States or countries carry out actions and have policies we...

Clearly you dont understand the concept of criticising a State's actions and not the entire State. Or, as I asked earler, you dont think the State should even exist. A question you avoided. And, as I said earlier, we should agree to disagree without resorting to saying the other does not...

But you are operating under premise the State only represents the aspects you associate with its negative aspects. The State actually means everything within Israel. Its Governance, its members, its organisations,everything. As I pointed out in my reference to USA and Trump or even the UK and...

Thats a different argument flecc. Personally dont think one can dislike a state without showing a prejudiced nature. You obviously think differently. We, ll have to agree to disagree. A State includes everything that State stands for. Actually think you only dislike certain elements. I, m going...

Clever... and correct.

No, I know precisely what I am saying. It may well be wrong or misguided like all of our ramblings, except yours ofcourse. Perhaps your criticism should be levelled at those posters claiming to dislike the State of Israel.

I can but you were the one criticising, well disliking, the State as opposed to representatives or policies of that State. The State rarely holds the views, values and beliefs of an individual and when it does it usually reflects a dangerou State and state. (ie Hitler and Third Reich) Come on...

Obviously the concept of criticising a States' actions as opposed to the State itself is rather too complex for you to grasp so I wont try again. Dont make yourself look less intelligent than you actually are OG, much as it would be difficult for you to achieve, you seen capable of doing so today.