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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sort of typifies our dilemna. "Politics is a field where the choice lies constantly between two blunders"
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As part of my degree half a century ago we had to do units on Thermodynamics, Quantum Physics and Theory of Relativity. Only thing I learned from it all was if this is all true absolutely anything from ghosts to aliens could be. Explaining time dilation to disinterested students years later only...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good luck Wicky. Terrible times.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    On the entire population it is. But its not entire population dying of it. And 88% of hospitalisation are in top 4 groups. In 7 weeks, 3 weeks after those groups are vaccinated we should reduce hospital admissions by around 80%. With targeted use of vaccine and fast roll we can save hundreds of...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Afraid I can't. They listened to the wayward doctor who championed fake news MMR causes autism.. But who knows.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I, m afraid I don't see it like that. Mhra are not under Boris's jurisdiction. Neither are JVCI and first person to publicise vaccine regime, allegedly after consulting vaccine specialist, was Tony Blair. Hardly a Boris supporter. With Tories having an 80 seat majority I can't see point in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You are taking comment out of context. The roll out speed does not alter fact that somebody by sheer statistics will at sometime have a heart attack a few hours/days after vaccine.(chap in story had history of heart attacks) But the roll out speed (a slow one) will mean people die of covid if...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    But roll out speed doesn't alter that. We are either vaccinating or not.?? But you are right. It will.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think that's rather premature to say nothing wrong. French have made decision to not have mass vaccination centres (they have them for flu vaccines) and decided not to put covid vaccine on their compulsory list (which measles and I believe around 6 other infectious diseases are).. If I were...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed there must be checks and consent but when the mechanisms are slowing roll out to extent in France something is wrong. Suspect its double edged, the more checks put in place by medical system the less faith it seems they have in the vaccine itself. Personally think I, m all for slipping...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://fortune.com/2021/01/04/france-health-system-fails-covid-19-vaccine-rollout/ Doesn't seem France will be sorting their vaccine roll out problems any time soon.. Their own representative saying they are showing World a perfect example of what not to do.??? Why is it our governments can...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Agreed. Trump is a product of Twitter. Don't think our government actively supports anti vaxers and covid deniers. Youtube/Facebook etc etc certainly do by offering a free for all platform. (rule free if not cost) We don't give anti vaxers TV/radio time but you tube is full of it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Fair enough...,??
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think she, s quite nice...??? I do have notoriously bad taste in this respect tho. And, I knew exactly who you meant..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Sorry OG, I thought you were agreeing with there being a "Global Reset".. You ain't. My mistake.. As for policing Internet? I, m not sure who could do it or how. Since printing press we, ve managed to catagorise books... Fiction or fact.. Seems now anybody can display what is seen as...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Speak for yourself OG. To my mind global reset is a load of ball cocks, justifying idiots to deny covid, denounce vaccines and burn down 5g masts. It's people with over active imaginations and nothing better to do. Do you realise the Flat Earth society and members of Johavas Witnesses have had...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Totally agree, we, ve only taken first steps.. And comparing our situation with EU does put us in a slightly better light. But how long as Biontech been authorised now? We should have started with 2 million per week. (even without supply we are far better getting shots in arms ASAP and testing...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Brilliant.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Its thread policy. Four and a half thousand posts and you now realise some posts are pointless..Not that quick are you Danidl. Besides 2 points are.. A) Any so called developed nation once having got regulatory approval for a vaccine should be able to immediately start vaccinating its...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not sure, if you search our figures there are now 300,000 having received 2nd dose. (our figures above are those having had protection, not vaccines given) WHO indicated anybody wishing to use same regime as UK they would support. (I think Germany was considering it) But surely indecision and...