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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/26/labour-new-leader-unite-party-leadership-contest Good article pointing out the difficult position Labour have manouvered into.
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    New batteries? 4 fold capcity??

    https://m.phys.org/news/2020-02-high-capacity-ev-battery-materials-range.html
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I know you couldn't.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/feb/01/peter-hargreaves-millions-for-charity-and-brexit-hargreaves-lansdown Interestinng article. Another idiot. ( last comment pure click bait, I actually think he, s a top bloke and should have been involved in negotiations)
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/02/14/mark-carney-finds-conceptual-positive-brexit/ Carney in Telegraph clutching at straws again. What an idiot.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yep " racistfukwit" is rather a long word, quite subtle for Agnew.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    He actually said "just yet".
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Amazing... They need a new editor.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Did you write the headline?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What alternative? We had choice of Boris and co or Corbyn /McCluskey. To be fair to both choices neither side could actually win, it was an unpopularity contest and Labour won hands down. If Tories not losing so convincingly isnt a sign Labour must change I, m not sure what is? Yes, I totally...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Momentum? I doubt it.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    People are rarely attracted to work, in most cases its the pay that does the attracting, the work merely a necessary evil that goes with it. If those 70,000 jobs paid decently there wouldnt be a problem. The problem you point out is simply that employees are underpaying and have an expectation...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ofcourse it has, and thats far worse than Boris is it? You cant have it both ways Agnew. You dont want Tories yet you also dont want a Labour that might get power. No what you want is Corbyn or his radical brand of dead socialism. Thats why we now have most right wing government in history. And...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    There is a degree of hypocrisy going on around this subject. If some factory, franchise or outlet (Sports Direct?) relied on having to pay beneath minimum wage, with shocking working conditions, zero hours contracts with workers stuck outside in all weathers everybody would be up in arms, but...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8023823/Tony-Blair-mocks-modern-day-Labour-Party.html?adobe_mc=TS%3D1582189733%7CMCAID%3D2D84D8AE85311984-6000010660031D7E Yes, Blair made mistakes but he got elected and would have again. Labour should have listened to him and Campbell pre election and...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    All used up on yours. I was answering your same stance around Labour's actions (or lack if them) being irrelevant to our situation. They have caused them equally as much as Tories.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Boris was elected because of what Labour party didnt do. They didnt appeal to enough voters and not because of how they were portrayed by media but because they are genuinely incompetent, disliked with litlle grasp oe understanding of electorate. Come on OG, Diane Abbott, McCluskey combined with...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, I do agree, but can he really do much whilst Party is controlled by Unite/McCluskey. But of them all he is most likely to try and lead them out the wilderness. He isn't leader yet tho.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You, ve already been saying that a while now OG. Its lasted since Blair disintegrated, its stronger now than ever before and there has been precious little to suggest its lost any support at all. Yes, nothing lasts forever, and predicting any organisations downfall has got to be correct, its a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Good post flecc. Yes, probably all correct. We, ll see. Reality is we, ve been in for approching 50 years. Societies are so entwined that true withdrawal is almost impossible. But it was offered and we voted to leave.?? Might be a beneficial action if EU accepts change must happen, wether its...