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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Think there is an alternative reality going on in here.. We, ve got one person arguing the head of EU vaccine roll out not knowing when a 62 year old (at risk) person will get vaccine is perfectly acceptable.. We, ve got various folk arguing vaccine doesn't work but still want their second jab...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ??? Don't get your point Danidl. She was asked and said she didn't know... Rather strange for a person in charge of vaccine roll out in EU?? Last time I looked Belgium was in EU?? She is passing the book. Had it been Boris doing same there would be mayem. Dual standards me thinks. The EU has...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If it stopped me starving to death, yes that would be fine. Not ideal but adequate. A meal is as good as a feast, especially so when struggling. I, m not suggesting anyone has actually been immunised, that at moment isn't the goal. It's to prevent serious illness/death. Hopefully immunisation...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Ask OG, he's an expert in this field. (and every other) BTW we are still in Europe. I love Europe. See myself as European. So if you are, so am I.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not me making decision OG, and no nobody can guarantee anything. Folk still die even after 2nd jab... But thanks, your second jab probably saved my daughter from being severely ill. Which sums up precisely situation we are in. You getting your second jab on time would have meant others in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1394534/Angela-Merkel-news-Germany-European-Union-Ursula-von-der-Leyen-Nigel-Farage-latest-vn Express enjoying the moment... Only as it does.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-eus-captain-ursula-von-der-leyen-missed-millions-of-shots-now-she-must-answer-to-her-team-fvxt3bjx7 They asked her when she thinks she will have her shot. "I don't actually know" Rather a telling indictment. But I suppose our Europhiles will tell her...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/07/covid-variants-and-vaccine-resistance-all-you-need-to-know Reasonable article from Guardian explaining where we actually are regarding vaccines.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-02-07-chadox1-ncov-19-provides-minimal-protection-against-mild-moderate-covid-19-infection
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/07/oxford-vaccine-astrazeneca-covid-19-vs-pfizer-safe-uk-who/ This must all be lies...???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Will you be having yours then Woosh?
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's fine flecc. Personally feel much happier vaccine is getting rolled out and do think we, ll got on top of this now. Wasn't convinced before... And I, m thankful daughter got her first jab... Could have been so different... Had government stuck to 3 week delay I doubt she'd have had...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I thought they, d said people vaccinated who died had caught infection earlier than the 3 weeks??? For some reason can't post link, but latest info I can find suggests vaccine is responsible for covid infection rates plummeting in Israel??? Last article I could find (6 days old tho) suggested...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Not sure of your point here flecc. Yep, AZ have said it won't prevent mild symptoms of covid with South African variant but still no severe disease /death expected. They are planning on modifying vaccine to take this into account for autumn. It's exactly situation with flu vaccine now. Nobody...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    If you mistrusted NHS, PHE, Government and mass media enough I could see how you could believe that, but we are getting into realms of a massive conspiracy... But I just can't see how anybody could stop social media spreading the bad news. Its reckoned every person in hospital has on average 4...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Would be hard to keep quiet tho if folk were rolling up at hospital having been vaccinated 5 weeks earlier. Folk becoming under weather and staying at home must be happening, I can vouch for that but if folk were still ending up in ICU the families would be straight to papers, social media etc...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I used to take all mine in morning,but they can make me feel lethargic... (nothing new) I changed to taking at 9pm,sleep better. Had a chat with the one that knows and he said whichever you wish but keep it constant.. Much prefer new regime. More active in day...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think they will. Once the initial roll out has got going the time delay becomes less important to getting through everybody. We need to conduct around 80 million jabs, getting that task completed fully is irrelevant to delay between first and second. I do think there is a case for delaying...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Daughter made a good point this morning. Had she had 2nd jab on time chances are symptoms would have been so mild she wouldn't have had a test, would have carried on working, kids going to nursery etc, and probably spreading infection. As it is symptoms have been very mild but enough to get...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/05/new-israeli-covid-drug-cured-30-cases-disease-hailed-scientists/ Good news.