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But since US contribute around 80% towards Nato operating costs, the EU army has a long long way to go, and hasn't actually started. Macron giving his seat to EU is the UN Security Council... EU tried deploying a force in 07 but its use was vetoed by a member state. As I said, shows perfectly...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1494770/EU-army-news-Emmanuel-Macron-France-United-Nations-Security-Council-seat-latest An EU army... Commanded from Brussels and having 27 commanders in chief. What a great idea. Its formation, well lack of it, demonstrates the very problems it's...

https://www.brusselsreport.eu/2021/09/21/following-aukus-its-time-for-france-to-go-back-to-the-order-of-the-day/ France doth protest too much? Didn't realise they were in for 400 million compensation. And not much noise about the Swiss choosing F35 after ordering French Rafales??? No doubt...

Blocked toilets reminds me of a funny tale. Probably told it before... A quite gentile, polite and friendly acquitance of ours kept finding drains to be blocked. Phoned out plumber who came diligently to remove offending blockage. On his third visit, after a quite difficult task, the lady asked...

Fair point... Last sentence is a fact... Aplies to us all tho...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58635393.amp All a dangerous game.. Taiwan has just announced a 9 billio( dollar?) expansion in its military and yesterday scrambled jets to intercept Chinese in their air space.. Meanwhile China suggests the only solution with Taiwan is now a military...

Don't worry JC. Your overcharging is paying for my gas.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/french-vs-british-american-submarines-key-differences-1.4678171 Explains situation rather better than Wikipedia. The salient point. Keep digging OG... Now you admit ignorance(you really didn't need to) yet earlier proclaimed to world...

Our gas meter is supposed to be remote and send signal to Mars.. We, ve had 3,each one fails.. So they fit a new one.. But they aren't new... They are recon... But not zeroed... So when we phone reading in they tell us its running backwards or we, ve read it wrong... So we say come and look and...

That's a different argument, and I sort of agree. I was pulling you up for suggesting you somehow know more than Australians do about their requirements and which subs are most likely to fulfill their required roll. We are not qualified to comment either way. Agreed the way its all happened is...

Australians don't have Wiki obviously. Stop digging Woosh, give OG the shovel. His forte is defending lost causes. We know feck all about American Nuclear Subs and probably less about French ones and less again of requirements Australians have.

I can't imagine there is anything on earth more secret and guarded than the specifications and capability of US Nuclear Submarines,but a couple on here (wasn't including you OG for a change) are pretentious enough to think they can comment on the suitability of various Submarines forvthe...

Rubbish. Like you have any inside information to suspect anything. Then you alike it to buying test tubes for some science lab. It's laughable. Bet M or Q have been keeping you and Woosh informed. Think Polly is better informed.

It can only be possible on here that folk know more about French and US submarines and what the Australians want from them. Pretentious or what.

And? Think you, ll find I said its not just the Nuclear capability, its having access to US technology and the alliance in general. But rather a flawed concept Woosh... Hybrid??? Why? Could be exactly why they were decided against. No way on earth (or in the sea) the French Hybrid U boats could...

Ask Australia, not me. Suspect its not just the practical issue of the submarines, it's the alliance it suggests.. Perhaps you should be defense minister aswell... You seem to have a handle on what a countries (all countries) needs defensively are just like you know everything about Brexit...

Only a matter of time before China walks into Taiwan... They see it as part of People's Republic.. The Royalty retreated there... Honk Kong first... Taiwan next.. Nobody will do a thing.

Agreed, but it works both ways... We stop buying from them and their revenue stops...?? Suspect Aukus revolves are the Ftaiwan issue...

Money and big arms companies are politics. Krupps, Vickers made as many decisions as any PM in WW1.

Yep, I wonder what commitments we, ve made in secret... Stand by Australia if they retaliate for Taiwan?? By the way, without us it wouldn't have been Aukus... (we are the UK bit stuck in the middle, holding coats, whilst the big lads fight.) Let's face it AFUS was never going to work.