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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Turkey has had close military ties with Ukraine for quite a while. Arms/ammunition passing both ways over last decade or so and I believe they share intelligence. It's been an issue for both NATO and Russia. Some NATO members have expressed concern over Turkeys reliability, but they are showing...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree it's very dangerous and probably both counter productive and plays into Putin's hands allowing private (none Ukrainian) individuals access to fighting in Ukraine.. All sorts of issues..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    And if Putin succeeds in Ukraine it's OK for you and me (for the time being) but Ukrainians lose freedoms, democracy and their own governance just for Putin's sake.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I notice in interests of accuracy you, ve removed my question mark from original statement,and taken it completely out of context. I think it's time you saw things, specifically Putin /Russia, as they are. Now threatening nuclear war. Its not enough for him to invade a democratic neighbour...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Stoking the fire, standing there to be shot at. How stupid of them. How dare they form a democracy.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Who and why Putin got in power is utterly irrelevant. We are where we are. Putin head of state in Russia chooses to invade an Independant sovereign democracy. Your comments have proven you do not know better. Quite the reverse. You are wrong. It's highly likely Putin will have to resort to war...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What has that got to do with it... We keel hauled sailors in 18th century, but that's irrelevant too. Russia are the aggressors, they are attempting to invade a sovereign Independant democratic state yet somehow you justify it and blame Ukrainians, USA/UK/EU for Putin's mental decision. You...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/the-world-shuns-pariah-putin In a nutshell Germany supplying stinger missiles and anti tank armaments to Ukraine, (from their own stocks, and a first for Germany since WW2) Hungary now totally supporting EU and Germany likely to back UK/EU requests...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What a ridiculous stance. Putin assembles 100k plus soldiers on your border and says accept our governance, forget self determination, forget democracy, come back and be part of Russia... Or be invaded. Then it's the Ukrainians fault for standing against the aggressor. Utter, utter rot. Putin or...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't think anyone supports or wants them to fight. That is not the issue. They are being forced to fight by Putin. Or are you saying if Putin said same to us we should just roll over and offer him tea, oh and shoot all our MPs and high ranking civil servants. Putin has no more right to roll...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You normally talk a lot of sense and on most subjects I do greatly respect your opinion Flecc. On this case however, I think you are talking utter BS. Ukrainians are not stupid for fighting for their freedom, it is heroic when people make the largest possible sacrifice they can in interests of a...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Suspect China is watching closely to world reaction with a view to doing similar in Taiwan. I was surprised they abstained tho... Doubt its the outcome Putin wanted..??? Scary times..
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    As long as you weren't Jewish in 1939, Ukrainian today, an Uygar in China at moment or a black person in South Africa (or deep south USA) in 60s. Saying to Russian soldiers, Nazis or ku klux Klan, come in have a cup of tea would have got you shot. And yes, everybody does want to be loved but not...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Why is fighting for freedom against an aggressor stupid Flecc? That's quite a ridiculous statement. And it's an insult to every person who has died fighting for freedom.
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's a massive expense in man power, deaths and finances. Does Russia actually want that? I suspect Putin is fighting a 20th century war in a world with 21st century values.???
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree with that and it's why situation is so dangerous. Putin can't have an easy victory but will not back down and its doubtful he'll be overthrown any time soon. Suspect he'd rather escalate conflict than being seen to lose or backdown. The 3 ways out are not available. (Ukrainians give in...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I don't think so this time. Putin has gone a step too far and bitten off more the he can chew quickly. Yes, without doubt he can win but the Ukrainians are going to ensure a high cost for both sides. His explanations at home are senseless and the Russians will see that. (Denazification when...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    https://newsfeed.upday.com/?aid=4MW33PE5zTTWsPhbCkT-qA-en-GB&channel=all_news&app_name=huawei_assistant&category=trending It certainly isn't going the way Putin expected or planned. Early days yet. In some ways Putin isn't invading another country, he's started a civil war people of neither...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    First casualty of War is truth... As for which side to believe and who is nearest to truth? Where are invading troops? Who sent them? Does Ukraine need "denazifying"? Is Ukraine invading Russia or is Russia invading Ukraine? Yep, lots of lies, no doubt from both sides but the obvious ones are...
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    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I can't believe what is unfolding and life goes on normal elsewhere. Putin is a relic from a bygone age. That this can happen in 21st century just shows how little evolution humans have actually gone through. Sheer greed, megalomania and bullying still rule over conversation and cooperation. All...