Brexit, for once some facts.

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A Complete Coincidence, No Connexionen, ja?
Coincidence. Don't read too much into this.
At the ripe old age of 88 (he was born 20/03/1938), he no longer needs a salary.
 

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*Germany's* incoming ruling coalition is also advocating a tougher approach to countries that violate the rule of law in the EUSSR, including possibly removing their voting rights — a provision that appears aimed at Budapest.
JAWOHL HERR KOMMISAR
SO DEMOKRAZIC !?
old habits die hard, haha :)
It's in the treaty, so it's normal that the EU may use that power.
Nothing strange about that.

Just to refresh your memory:

The European Union can suspend the voting rights of a member state under Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU). This article is often referred to as the EU's "nuclear option" because it's the most serious political sanction available against a member state.

The circumstances:

Voting rights can be withdrawn when a member state seriously and persistently breaches the EU's fundamental values, which include:


  • Respect for human dignity
  • Freedom
  • Democracy
  • Equality
  • The rule of law
  • Respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities

These values are enshrined in Article 2 of the TEU.

Main reasons the EU is concerned about Hungary:

  1. Judicial Independence
    • Reforms have been seen as undermining the independence of courts and judges.
    • The EU argues that political control over the judiciary violates the rule of law, a cornerstone of the EU legal system.
  2. Media Freedom
    • State influence over media and concentration of ownership have weakened press freedom.
    • Independent journalism in Hungary has come under pressure, raising red flags about pluralism and freedom of expression.
  3. Corruption and Use of EU Funds
    • Allegations of misuse of EU funds by politically connected individuals or companies.
    • The European Commission has triggered a separate conditionality mechanism to withhold funding over rule of law concerns.
  4. LGBTQ+ and Minority Rights
    • Laws seen as discriminating against LGBTQ+ individuals and limiting rights of minorities have drawn strong criticism from EU institutions.
    • These policies are viewed as contradicting human rights standards in the EU Charter.
  5. Constitutional Changes and Democratic Backsliding
    • Frequent constitutional amendments and the use of emergency powers during the COVID-19 pandemic have raised alarms about concentration of power in the hands of the government.

The use of emergency powers is not uniquely a Trump thing.
 
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It's in the treaty, so it's normal that the EU may use that power.
Nothing strange about that.

Just to refresh your memory:

The European Union can suspend the voting rights of a member state under Article 7 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU). This article is often referred to as the EU's "nuclear option" because it's the most serious political sanction available against a member state.

The circumstances:

Voting rights can be withdrawn when a member state seriously and persistently breaches the EU's fundamental values, which include:


  • Respect for human dignity
  • Freedom
  • Democracy
  • Equality
  • The rule of law
  • Respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities

These values are enshrined in Article 2 of the TEU.

Main reasons the EU is concerned about Hungary:

  1. Judicial Independence
    • Reforms have been seen as undermining the independence of courts and judges.
    • The EU argues that political control over the judiciary violates the rule of law, a cornerstone of the EU legal system.
  2. Media Freedom
    • State influence over media and concentration of ownership have weakened press freedom.
    • Independent journalism in Hungary has come under pressure, raising red flags about pluralism and freedom of expression.
  3. Corruption and Use of EU Funds
    • Allegations of misuse of EU funds by politically connected individuals or companies.
    • The European Commission has triggered a separate conditionality mechanism to withhold funding over rule of law concerns.
  4. LGBTQ+ and Minority Rights
    • Laws seen as discriminating against LGBTQ+ individuals and limiting rights of minorities have drawn strong criticism from EU institutions.
    • These policies are viewed as contradicting human rights standards in the EU Charter.
  5. Constitutional Changes and Democratic Backsliding
    • Frequent constitutional amendments and the use of emergency powers during the COVID-19 pandemic have raised alarms about concentration of power in the hands of the government.

The use of emergency powers is not uniquely a Trump thing.
Still not DEMOKRAZIC , nein.
Y, Deutschland has committed ALL the offences above, let's have a forensic audit too!
"Konzentrazion of Power" (in the EUSSR)
So we got there in the end! Cheers. Hehe :)
 

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Still not DEMOKRAZIC , nein.
Y, Deutschland has committed ALL the offences above, let's have a forensic audit too!
"Konzentrazion of Power" (in the EUSSR)
So we got there in the end! Cheers. Hehe :)
You are wrong there. Germany cannot punish Romania on its own, it needs majority voting. That makes the punishment democratic.
 
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them German fookers need carpet bombing again my grand dad said the only good german was a dead one :p
 

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You are wrong there. Germany cannot punish Romania on its own, it needs majority voting. That makes the punishment democratic.
No, the EU basis is that Any One Member can veto a measure. This is specifically to prevent the "ganging up" on one member.
Merz of BlackRock, prospective Chancellor is throwing his weight about quite a bit lately.. :cool:
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If EUSSR wins OK, if not not ve take our ball und go home.
Even the other candidate agreed it was a "trampling of democracy"
How many Elekshuns cancelled in UK too?
Nine Labour councils don't like democracy
Any more? :-/
 

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"Cancel election Due to Cost of Living Crisis", that doesn't sound like "Due to Reorganisation"?
Maybe they didn't get the memo? :)
 

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Iceland isn't that wealthy, does it just take Fish to be independent (cod wars)?
Norway: Fish, Oil, Gas. Seem to remember another country so endowed, what happened to them, hehe?
Switzerland, in the middle, pulling the strings.. numbered bank accounts.. isn't Davos there? Mm :-/
 

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Even the other candidate agreed it was a "trampling of democracy"
Just a talking point. The far right plays the victim card. That does not bother me. What does is their modus operandi of wilfully breaking some laws or international treaties just to gain kudos with their base. The result is perfectly respectable people, never break any law themselves, get attracted by their lawlessness. It's just like people watching a thriller because they know it is just fiction, nobody really dies. However, when a far right politician like Trump garnered enough support to win, people lose jobs and pensions etc. The rate of fall on the stock market is now highest since 1932. More than 300,000 job losses have been planned by big businesses that sell mainly outside the usa to avoid supply chain problems. Back then, 1932, 23% of the workforce were jobless. Add that tally to rest of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is the most hated politician on the planet right now. Putin hasn't created a tenth of the damage Trump has. We now have a bunch of would-be Trumps in Europe and no law to stop them. The future for our grandchildren is bleak. Dictatorship and robotised manufacturing.
 
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Just a talking point. The far right plays the victim card. That does not bother me. What does is their modus operandi of wilfully breaking some laws or international treaties just to gain kudos with their base. The result is perfectly respectable people, never break any law themselves, get attracted by their lawlessness. It's just like people watching a thriller because they know it is just fiction, nobody really dies. However, when a far right politician like Trump garnered enough support to win, people lose jobs and pensions etc. The rate of fall on the stock market is now highest since 1932. More than 300,000 job losses have been planned by big businesses that sell mainly outside the usa to avoid supply chain problems. Back then, 1932, 23% of the workforce were jobless. Add that tally to rest of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is the most hated politician on the planet right now. Putin hasn't created a tenth of the damage Trump has. We now have a bunch of would-be Trumps in Europe and no law to stop them. The future for our grandchildren is bleak. Dictatorship and robotised manufacturing.
In a parallel universe in which trump's agenda worked and countries established trade agreements favourable to the US with it quickly, tariffs would still be terminal for it, make us companies less competitive internationally, inflate domestic US prices, inflation, decrease productivity (protectionism, loss of international competition does that).
If it weren't for the secondary impact on the poor, working class in other countries (Vietnam etc) I'd be quite chuffed - a world that's less US centric could be a good thing.
 
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In a parallel universe in which trump's agenda worked and countries established trade agreements favourable to the US with it quickly, tariffs would still be terminal for it, make us companies less competitive internationally, inflate domestic US prices, inflation, decrease productivity (protectionism, loss of international competition does that).
If it weren't for the secondary impact on the poor, working class in other countries (Vietnam etc) I'd be quite chuffed - a world that's less US centric could be a good thing.
It can work if American car workers accept to compete with Mexicans South of the border. Mexicans work hard for $6 an hour to assemble cars against $30 an hour atm. Apple employ indirectly 300,000 educated and skilled Chinese to build their products. They can't even assemble a complete iPhone in india and Vietnam. Forget about using robots to replace humans in the usa atm. China is years ahead in making robots. Just look at the number of 'dark factories' in China. They don't switch on lights because the robots don't need lights.
 
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if apple dont want china making there phones they can just turn off the software sure you can but all the parts from the market but without the software you cant pair parts to the phone like a new screen ect.

robosen make transforming transformers but id never buy one because there are no parts to fix it no wiring diagrams and bet the batts will be software coded to the cpu so no 3rd party one will work.

we can buy all the robots china has but the problem is we not got the power to run them all 247.

like a f1 cars carbon parts its not the same as carbon bike frames ect and not like china has the best f1 car and software is it they cant even beat the sr71 :rolleyes:

all china does is steal ip and copy/steal everything inc transformers ect and there is no way it would be cost effective to make them anywhere else because the parts and screws are so small it is all done buy hand.

yet if you do buy a real mp one from hasbro and you brake it because it was made from cheap plastic not there problem!

yet every 3rd party has given me every part that i have broke or was missing in the first place and china to uk is 9 ish days from postage free.

if i can get a 1.2m 50kg giant robot posted buy boat from china for £7.50 we are just being fooked in the a$$:p
 

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If apple dont want china making there phones they can just turn off the software sure you can but all the parts from the market but without the software you cant pair parts to the phone like a new screen ect.
Apple can only make their phones in China. They have tried Vietnam and India but all the parts have to come from China. Their relationship with China is a symbiosis.
When the usa tried to compete with huawei on 5G by locking out their access to sub 7nm technology, their engineers build alternatives to UEV. They now have sub 1nm technology. Their silicon runs in terahertz. Just look at Chinese Low Earth Orbit SpaceSail satellite Internet. Musk starlink gives you about 100mb/s download speed. Chinese competition up to 100 gigabit/s.
Frontier Technologies have moved over to China, south Korea, Taiwan and Japan.
You don't have to go far, I have curry's TV shop about 200m from my shop. Try to imagine a TV made in the USA in there.
 

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if they dont have access to the software they cant make them anywhere not even on the moon.

anyone that spends 2k on a phone that is a throw away item needs putting in a loony bin.
 

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