Help! Building up from Swytch kit

cheesemonkey

Pedelecer
Jul 27, 2022
38
9
A quick update; I decided to buy a whole new kit from Woosh (front hub FX07, 36V 13Ah battery, Lishui rated 8A max 17A) for just over £520.

Tested the kit with Swytch's AKM 100SX hub and no juddering from the hub. By process of elimination, I assume the Swytch controller is at fault. Very helpful that I could test the hub; I could have just asked Woosh for new battery and controller/display but there's a sense of relief that I now have a whole new, reputable conversion kit; time will tell how I get on with it. Good bye Sywtch, it's been fun and educational; time for me to move on.

Took the opportunity to strip the bike completely and overhaul all the components (family inherited bike, history of any servicing is unknown!) before putting on the new conversion kit. It'll feel like a brand new ebike.

Just out of curiosity, I checked how much I paid for Swytch kit. Well, embarrassingly I paid total of £692... (£137.25 just for customs!) :eek: And 6months of waiting! Oh have I learned some life lessons here.

Many thanks everyone for your advice and in particular @Woosh for your business. Will update once everything is all put together.
 
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cheesemonkey

Pedelecer
Jul 27, 2022
38
9
Another quick update: bike overhauled and kit neatly installed.

The new XF07 just about fitted with some fettling with extra washer on the right side to clear the significant bulge of the fork. The wheel sits about 2mm to the left from the centre but I wouldn't think it warrants re-dishing. V brakes sits square and the wheel is true (after some adjustment out of the box, glad I'm skilled with general bike maintenance).

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Looks like a new shiny bike (from a distance). Luckily the cables weren't excessively long after routing over the top tube.

Test ride trouble-free ok but yet to go for a commute. I don't think I didn't need it, but it was quite nice to see live speed and power in watts on the display (Sywtch kit had only LED indicators for battery and power levels).
 
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cheesemonkey

Pedelecer
Jul 27, 2022
38
9
80miles one with the new set up.

A quick update - overall, great and I'm glad to have said goodbye to Swytch and moved on to this conversion kit.

I like the display which shows the live speed, assisted power in watts, trip distance and time, etc. I also like that the buttons are just within reach of my left thumb to quickly adjust the power (assisted speed) level.

Assistance feels all or nothing to each level's limit. I tend to keep it at 4 out of 5 level (14.4mph) which is more than enough to just kick in to assist me on an incline. I go much faster in my own steam on flats and decline so no need for power assist. My wife on the other hand, tends to pootle around 10mph so she can set to 2 or 3 out of 5 level, which is easily set even whilst riding. Swytch power pack could also change assist level but the buttons were awkward and couldn't really tell the difference between the levels. I feel there's no need to go 5 out of 5 levels (also from the fear of overheating the controller / battery by maxing its capacity continuously).

Simply, just quite nice to hop on and enjoy the assist without constantly worrying about things going wrong. Swytch kit was a constant fettling pit with something always not quite right, needing my time and effort to troubleshoot and fix. So far (thought 80miles is too soon to judge), none of that system failure anxiety.

With the major overhaul to the bike, it gave us a sense of having a new ebike, perfect for spring /summer season.

One afterthought is, could I have got away with keeping the Swytch motor hub and upgrade with a KT set and a battery online rather than a whole conversion kit. Probably yes, but I didn't feel confident with Swytch kit so I am happy with Swytch kit completely off the bike and start afresh. I will definitely consider customising with KT kit / maybe 48V set up for the next upgrade. For now, happy to keep it as it is for few years and forget about it.

Many thanks everyone for all your help and advice. Here's to a happy, trouble-free miles.
 

Nixtoo

Pedelecer
Jan 30, 2016
100
3
46
A quick update; I decided to buy a whole new kit from Woosh (front hub FX07, 36V 13Ah battery, Lishui rated 8A max 17A) for just over £520.

Tested the kit with Swytch's AKM 100SX hub and no juddering from the hub. By process of elimination, I assume the Swytch controller is at fault. Very helpful that I could test the hub; I could have just asked Woosh for new battery and controller/display but there's a sense of relief that I now have a whole new, reputable conversion kit; time will tell how I get on with it. Good bye Sywtch, it's been fun and educational; time for me to move on.

Took the opportunity to strip the bike completely and overhaul all the components (family inherited bike, history of any servicing is unknown!) before putting on the new conversion kit. It'll feel like a brand new ebike.

Just out of curiosity, I checked how much I paid for Swytch kit. Well, embarrassingly I paid total of £692... (£137.25 just for customs!) :eek: And 6months of waiting! Oh have I learned some life lessons here.

Many thanks everyone for your advice and in particular @Woosh for your business. Will update once everything is all put together.
So the controller from woosh worked with the switch hub motor? I’m looking for options as we’re on our 3rd handle bar bracket in 3 yrs.
 

Az.

Esteemed Pedelecer
Apr 27, 2022
1,356
604
Plymouth
One afterthought is, could I have got away with keeping the Swytch motor hub and upgrade with a KT set and a battery online rather than a whole conversion kit.
Some leftover parts? Perhaps a nice step through bike conversion for your wife is in order? You could enjoy rides together.