Which 1000w kit?

[RichB]

Hi all,

Haven't been on here for a while, but still ebiking with my original 250w Cyclotricity kit which has been faultless for 18 months.

I'm now thinking about building a 'fun' bike and am looking at the 1000w kits. I'm obviously drawn towards the Cyclotricity 1000w kit due to my experience and level of customer service. However the Dillenger kits also look to be good value for money. Anyone had any experiences of either?

I will be mainly using the kit off road (I'm lucky to have a mate with a very large private estate), so range isnt really an issue but I'd like to get 20 miles out of the battery if I could. I would also want pedelec as I still want to be pedaling as much as I can also. Prefer bottle battery style rather than a rear rack, and probably rear wheel (as I would imagine a 1000w hub on a front wheel would be prone to slipping out?).
Any alternative suggestions?

Many thanks,
Rich

 

[Deleted member 4366]

They're 'kin heavy and a bottle battery is not going to last long. You can get the same performance out of a geared 500W motor that will probably be more efficient too. Those big DD motors are great if you want to go at a constant high speed.

 

[Kinninvie]

I can only get 16 miles out of my Dillenger 1000W and there is too much drag for me to pedal any distance with it unpowered,
Mines on the front but its on tarmac so not a problem.
Take note of the post above,unfortunately I didnt join here til after I had bought mine and I now have a BBS02 which is in another league and does the same top speed but can be pedalled unpowered with ease.

 

[trex]

RichB, if this is your first project, the BBS01 18A 350W or BBS02 500W and 750W kits are well tried and tested recipes with practically guaranteed result.

 

[RichB]

Thanks for the comments, very useful.
I really like the look of the BBS crank drive, something I hadn't really thought of. I'm fairly confident in the actual fitting as I've swapped the Cyclotricity kit to a few different bikes. I'm looking to put this kit on a Specialised 29er.
Any recommendations on the best place to buy from ?

 

[Nealh]

Usual chinese sites BMS etc or over here Eclipsebikes.com or Woosh.
Can't speak for Eclipse but Woosh were 5* to deal with and delivery, also a tiny bit more expensive than Eclipse, though is probably because battery is 15a one so a bit more range and also little more bulky. Both plug and play kits.

 

[RichB]

They're 'kin heavy and a bottle battery is not going to last long. You can get the same performance out of a geared 500W motor that will probably be more efficient too. Those big DD motors are great if you want to go at a constant high speed.

Is the Cyclotricity 500w version geared do you know, it's not clear from the description but it states that it is 'brushless' with minimal drag?

 

[Deleted member 4366]

I checked with Cyclotricity today. The 500w motor is a direct drive the same as the 1000w one. No clutch or gears, so a little drag when free-wheeling.

 

[RichB]

Thanks D8veh!
So would you say the 500w kit would not be worth it?
As a comparison, I've run the 250w Cyclotricity kit for over 12 months with no issues. Just fancied a bit more power!
(Couple of small hills on my commute, but the 250w handles them without too much trouble).
Rich

 

[Deleted member 4366]

The Cyclotricity 1000w kit is relatively cheap for its power and considering that it has a decent battery. It's always a difficult decision. These big direct drive kits are very heavy and suitable for continuous high speed journeys. The geared 500w motors leave your bike more or less like a normal bike to ride, but with a lot of grunt for getting up hills. It's a shame that they don't do a 500w geared version. Personally, I think that the 500w DD might be a bit weak for a heavy rider ( not saying that you're heavy), though I haven't tried one, but it could still be a good choice if you're light and have a long flat commute and just want a decent bit of speed. Somebody has got to try one and let us know how it is.

 

[RichB]

Well, thanks to the input from this forum, I've made my decision.

Just ordered the 350w BBS01 (with 15a battery ) from Woosh. I think this will give me what I'm looking for, a reasonable top speed but still riding like a 'normal' bike.

I'll have a build thread soon!!

Rich

 

[Kinninvie]

Good choice.
I love my BBS02 and as you say you can still ride it like an ordinary bike.
I have 16Ah of batteries and its good for 50 miles even here in the Teesdale hills and with me being both unfit and fat (well 17 stone).....