Wheel sizes 700c 26"

The Maestro

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I'm considering an electric kit conversion for my Marin Larkspur but I don't understand the wheel diameters. Most eletric kits - hubs wheels seem to be 26", my bikes wheels are refered to as 700c (I think). 26" is obviously a pretty
obvious measurement, but what on earth does 700c mean and can it take an electric hub conversion?
 

frank9755

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700c is the size of wheel on racing, touring and many other full-size bikes. It's about 28 inches (or 700mm - it was originally a French size).

Perfectly suitable for electric conversionm but you are right, there are not so many ready-made kits in 700c wheels, so you may need to get your own wheel built.
 

flecc

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700c is the size you see on race style bikes like those the lycra brigade use.

Sometimes called 27" or 28", the diameter depends on the type of tyre. On the old Torq with the Kenda 1.75" wide tyres the diameter was roughly 28", but with the minimal size skinny race tyres, it's 27".

P.S. Crossed post with Frank.
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The Maestro

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Its definately not a lycra brigade bike its a road bike with moderately broard tyres. So I guess I have to build a wheel, got no idea whats involved in that but I'll have to find out.
 

flecc

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You can use hub motors in the larger 700c size wheel, it just means they will be 7.7% faster with minutely reduced hill climb ability.

In other words, a 26" wheel 15 mph motor will do 16.1 mph, nothing to worry about. Sticking with the original size wheel will avoid other complications like brake changes etc.
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frank9755

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Its definately not a lycra brigade bike its a road bike with moderately broard tyres. So I guess I have to build a wheel, got no idea whats involved in that but I'll have to find out.
Just ring a few bike shops and you'll find one that will be up for it.

I put a kit into my Marin bike with 700c wheels in an attempt to make a bike that would do 20+mph on my flattish commute. It was great while it lasted but the kit I used (Tongxin) has not proved reliable. If I were doing it now I would use exactly the same motor as the Torq 1 - the Suzhou Bafang motor geared for 20 inch wheels. In a 700c that would then be geared for 20-22 mph, but with limited hill-climbing ability.
 

Andy Day

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Nano in 700c rims

I have a Nano motor (front hub) built into a Falcon Camargue sports bike from the late 70s. The Nano is of course a Tongxin as well, but I've had good reliability until recently when I had to have a new ESC. The bike started out with 27" rims but that limits the tyre choice so I've laced the wheels up with DTC 700c rims, fairly slim tyres, Continental 24mm profile if I remember correctly.

When I bought the Nano Simon Mills at Systems for Reliability asked me to send the front wheel to him so he could lace it up. That was when it had 27" rims so I've rebuilt it since into it's current 700c format. I haven't found any problems building my own wheels, I thing there is a lot of BS* talked about wheelbuilding, given a bit of common sense any Fred Dibnah back street mechanic can do it! Do take some time working out the spoke lengths before ordering them though,

The Nano is a small unit and fits between the Falcons fork without any need for bending, although I did need to file the slots to accept to larger diameter spindle. The original torque washers (stop the spindle from rotating the opposite way from the motor, every action has an equal and opposite reaction) gave up the ghost - made of monkey metal, so I made some from 1/8 EN26 steel and they are fine.

Being a lightweight bike with Renolds 501 frame tubing and almost everything else ally the performance is excellent, I've centralised the mass of the 36v 12ah SLA batteries in the frame triangle so it handles like a normal bike as well.

I think there are many advantages to "electrifying" a good lightweight as opposed to a mountain bike carthorse. Narrow high pressure tyres give low rolling resistance, the lack of weight gives good handling, increased mileage per charge and the ability to give more assistance via pedals.
 
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