What's the difference between a torque sensor and a speed sensor?

Luke12

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I have read that the torque sensor provides assistance relative to the riders pedaling force.
Has anyone rode bikes with a speed sensor and also a torque sensor for a period of time and can I have your opinions on which one you prefer? As it seems like bike with a torque sensor seem more expensive than those with a speed sensor.

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Whether you have a torque sensor or speed sensor makes little difference. What's important is the software in the controller that should process the torque or speed signal into a meaningful power profile. Only the European and Panasonic power systems have managed that so far with torque sensors.

With every type of system, there's advantages and disadvantages. With the Chinese speed sensor systems, the power tends to remain steady, so that when you start pedalling, you get the power set on your control panel, which gives a relaxing ride with the motor keeping the power going, so you don't have to pedal hard. In fact you can pedal as hard or softly as you want, which is a huge advantage. With some torque systems, the power is proportional to pedal effort, so you can't ease off on your pedalling when your tired.

The situation is really confused now that the Chinese are fitting torque sensors to bikes with speed-control controllers, and now there's speed-control controllers with torque sensor simulation.

They all work. My preference is for a hub motor with speed sensor and speed-control controller with several levels of PAS.. Torque control is better for crank-drive systems, but only with current-control controllers, which is what I believe Bosch, Panasonic and Kalkhoff use.
 
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Luke12

Finding my (electric) wheels
May 20, 2013
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Right, so if I was to get a bike with a torque sensor then I should invest in one with a good quality controller? Is it possible to get a bike with a torque sensor with the ability to have several levels of PAS, therefore meaning I am able to change the power depending on my mood?
Also, as ebikes must only deliver power when the pedals are actually in motion, what would a throttle actually do? Does the throttle provide full power, but only when the pedals are moving?

Sorry for all the questions!

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You don't have to worry about these things. You just try the bike and see if you like it. Throttles are allowed, so get one if you have the option.

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Taff

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Is it possible to get a bike with a torque sensor with the ability to have several levels of PAS, therefore meaning I am able to change the power depending on my mood?
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Yes. Have a look at the BH Emotion Neo Cross for example.