What kit do I need?

[davie150]

I am going to go ahead and buy a conversion kit for my bike instead of buying a brand new bike
I am not sure exactly what kit I need that will be suitable for my bike, so am asking for advice from you guys on here.
I have a Raleigh Pioneer Metro, it is over 10 years old but still in good nick.
A guy at work has bought and fitted a kit from yosepower £340 for kit and battery and I am looking at that.

 

[davie150]

I was looking at the 36v350w rear hub with the 36V13Ah Li-on battery.
What do I need to know if this kit is suitable for my bike?
https://www.yosepower.com/en/product/Hub-Motor-36V350W-Black-Hub-Motor-for-Rear-Wheel-28"%28700C%29-%26-HL1-36V13Ah-Battery-Conversion-Kit-DIY-E-bike-112.html

 

[Nealh]

The Yose kits are quite standard so should fit many bikes.

 

[davie150]

So , I have heard but don't want to buy till I am sure, I do not know if my back wheel is freewheel or cassette, I assume I need the 28" kit as my tyres are 28x 1 5/8 X 1 3/8


Which shows the wheel diameter as 634.5mm on the kit in yosepower website

 

[davie150]

Will the PAS sensor fit on to my left crank here ?

I think the notches on show mean that it will as I have read somewhere that there are different kinds.
Sorry for all the questions, I am pretty sure that I will manage to do this, but as I have never done this before, I am not 100% sure that this kit is compatible.

 

[Nealh]

Show us a pic of the rear wheel/gears, how many cogs ?

LH V12L pas sensor is for square taper bottom bracket which you have, sometimes you have to replace it with a longer axle shaft for the sensor to fit. You need approx. 8mm gap between crank arm and bottom bracket face.

 

[davie150]

 

[davie150]

Are these good enough?
I took them earlier, if you need more then I will get in the morning

 

[Hightechpete]

I'm no expert, having fitted a Cyclotricity front wheel kit and a Yosepower rear kit. The front wheel kit is much easier to fit, rear wheel kits will be more problematic in terms of wheel alignment and you might have to dish the wheel in order to align it properly.
Having said that, I think it was worth the trouble, just be aware that it may not just drop in.

Your six speed cluster is almost certainly a freewheel, make sure that you have the correct axle width of 135mm.

 

[davie150]

I'm no expert, having fitted a Cyclotricity front wheel kit and a Yosepower rear kit. The front wheel kit is much easier to fit, rear wheel kits will be more problematic in terms of wheel alignment and you might have to dish the wheel in order to align it properly.
Having said that, I think it was worth the trouble, just be aware that it may not just drop in.

Your six speed cluster is almost certainly a freewheel, make sure that you have the correct axle width of 135mm.

So for my first go, you are suggesting that I do the front wheel as it is easier.
Is wheel alignment the biggest problem with rear wheels, as I assume the wheel arrives centred/true and when the cogs are put on you have to use a spoke tool to pull it to centre of forks.

 

[Audio2]

The kit you are looking at is not legal in the UK. It should be 250 watt.

 

[davie150]

The kit you are looking at is not legal in the UK. It should be 250 watt.

Maybe, but no one will ever know.

 

[Eagle]

davie150,
Search through the archives on here and you will find that, in the event of an accident, the first thing that the police will check is the legality of your bike!
Here is one thread:
https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/frustrating-15-5-limit.32498/page-3#post-474574

 

[davie150]

I am not looking at buying this kit because it is 350watts, I am buying it because it is £333 delivered to my door and that is better than £600 for some 250watt kits I have seen online or £1k + that I would be for a brand new bike.
I am looking for some assistance on getting up hills on my commute, that is all, cycling along the road at 35 to 45mph with my v brake rubber pads on my old bike does not interest me at all. I have a Suzuki gsx1250 if I want some speed.

 

[davie150]

Show us a pic of the rear wheel/gears, how many cogs ?

LH V12L pas sensor is for square taper bottom bracket which you have, sometimes you have to replace it with a longer axle shaft for the sensor to fit. You need approx. 8mm gap between crank arm and bottom bracket face.

 

[Woosh]

I am buying it because it is £333 delivered to my door and that is better than £600 for some 250watt kits

that price is possible because the vendor operates from China, selling without charging you VAT. If something goes wrong, you'd have to sort it out with China.
If you are looking for something similar in the UK, check out my hub kits here:
http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?hubkits

 

[vfr400]

To use the bottom bracket you have, you need the pedal sensor with the separate magnet disc and sensors, not the combined V12 thing, otherwise buy a new BB.

 

[davie150]

that price is possible because the vendor operates from China, selling without charging you VAT. If something goes wrong, you'd have to sort it out with China.
If you are looking for something similar in the UK, check out my hub kits here:
http://wooshbikes.co.uk/?hubkits

Ok, I have had a look.
The ones that are compatible with my bike seem to be
XF07 front 700c 13Ah £469
17Ah £569
Or the
SW02 rear 700c 12Ah £569

which one of these would you recommend for my Raleigh Pioneer.

 

[Woosh]

Ok, I have had a look.
The ones that are compatible with my bike seem to be
XF07 front 700c 13Ah £469
17Ah £569
Or the
SW02 rear 700c 12Ah £569

which one of these would you recommend for my Raleigh Pioneer.

The XF07 front hub is the easiest to fit and also lightest. The SWX02 rear hub takes about half hour - an hour extra to transfer the freewheel over. In a few cases, the freewheel's thread is seized up so hard to get off that you should consider buying a new MF TZ06 (TZ20 now) freewheel to save time.

https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Shimano/Tourney-TZ20-Freewheel-6-Speed-14-28/JY1
The SWX02 has stronger torque, if where you live is very hilly, consider the 48V SWX02, it will winch a 25st rider.
Between 13st-17st, the SWX02 is perfect candidate.
(I have 6-speed, 7-speed and 8-speed freewheels in stock, you can get it from me at the same time if you wish)

 

[davie150]

I am 54 years old, 5' 11" and 14st 7lb.
I can propel my bike along at a steady 20mph according to my fitbit app.
I am looking for help with the big hill on the last third of my ride home from work.

You posted a picture on my first post on this site of my bike, so assuming you know it, is mine definitely freewheel cogs