Treat the Earth Well

Chief eZee Power

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Feb 8, 2007
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It is a really very depressing summer of news after the BP Gulf Oil disaster, millions suffering floods in Pakistan, even in Kashmir, India, Indonesia, China, even my home country Singapore. Forest Fire in Russia, and vast stretch for coral reefs dead and bleached in South East Asia due to as much as 3 deg rise in the sea temp. I hope those climate change sceptics are reading all these.

One not so well off and handicapped Indian Organic Farmer is doing his part to promote sustainable transportation has started a few days ago on the epic ride across india from the south to the north, after a month or so of training and familiarisation of his bike, mostly thru' heavy down poors during this monsoon season. I wish him better weather as he forges ahead.

Those interest could check his blog

e-triking across INDIA: Successful pedaling up Shiradi

eZee is proud to have provided him with the conversion kits. Those thinking of conversion kits should check it out with Onbike. If the Bionx kit as some say is worth every penny of it, you get much much more than a penny worth with eZee for every penny spend. Just look at the battery we have the same cells built by the same pack manufacturer for maybe half the price. Check 37V10Ah, and we have now on the same casing 37V14Ah.

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allen-uk

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Chief:

Tragic yes, and an epic journey, yes...

But speaking only for myself, I would appreciate a bit less advertising.

Allen.
 

eddieo

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Chief:

Tragic yes, and an epic journey, yes...

But speaking only for myself, I would appreciate a bit less advertising.

Allen.
Yes I agree, the last paragraph should have been added to the BionX thread.......far more appropriate there. Then no accusations of advertising would be valid?
 

Xcytronex

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Jul 23, 2009
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The Chiefs whole post was linked-Ezee are supplying the motors / kits.
No problems here--unless you wish to make one. Information shared is always appreciated. Thanks Chief.
 

eddieo

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The Chiefs whole post was linked-Ezee are supplying the motors / kits.
No problems here--unless you wish to make one. Information shared is always appreciated. Thanks Chief.
You may well think linking a tragedy affecting 20 million people with e bike kits appropriate I certainly do not:rolleyes:
 

Xcytronex

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Jul 23, 2009
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You may well think linking a tragedy affecting 20 million people with e bike kits appropriate I certainly do not:rolleyes:
Like I said no problems here unless you wish to engineer one.The Chiefs post was not specific to the Flood desaster in Pakistan but related to a host of 'climate change ' issues.His link relates quite fairly to an Indian farmers expedition-as Ezee are supplying the kits for the bike used.
This is an ebike forum- any information related to Bikes-kits-motors-failed components and ruined holidays is always welcome.
 
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Cyclezee

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An interesting story regarding the trike expedition.
The Chief is a busy man and does not post frequently, but it is always worth reading what he has to say. I also fully agree with Xcytronex and his comments.

As for the Ezee kit, it is certainly excellent value when compared to the Bionx offerings.

J:) hn
 
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flecc

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I also like to read about these various e-bike exploits from around the world. The dividing line between self promotion and news is very hard to draw since opinions on the matter vary so much, so I'm strongly in favour of latitude and some tolerance.
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lemmy

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I also like to read about these various e-bike exploits from around the world. The dividing line between self promotion and news is very hard to draw since opinions on the matter vary so much, so I'm strongly in favour of latitude and some tolerance.
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So long as too many people don't jump on the bandwagon and the tolerance and latitude don't stretch too far.

My personal experience is that when you give an inch, a mile is eventually taken.
 

Scimitar

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Jul 31, 2010
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Well, the last paragraph was certainly a puff, but it got me to go and look at the ezeebike site, which in turn led me to the UK dealer, for a look at the battery prices. If those are half-price, I'm a Dutchman.
 

jerrysimon

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It rained a lot here in Cambridge last night and there are huge puddles outside my house this morning. If Ezee are supplying free kits I will take one.

Ok probably in bad taste, but I couldn't resist :p

PS I have to admit to being very sceptical about the whole climate change agenda and those who seem to be running advertising off the back of it.

Regards

Jerry
 
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flecc

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Well, the last paragraph was certainly a puff, but it got me to go and look at the ezeebike site, which in turn led me to the UK dealer, for a look at the battery prices. If those are half-price, I'm a Dutchman.
Welkom Scimitar! :p

The Chief said half the price of BionX batteries, and believe me, BionX battery prices have been mind blowing over the years. I remember when the eZee lithium battery was £250 some years ago and the Bionx 36volt 10 Ah equivalent was 900 dollars, equal to over £560 at the time. That's why the Treks are using small batteries with the BionX motors to keep the cost down.
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Alex728

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I don't see any real difference between this and the Wisper World Tour posts that appear here...

its also viewed as much less crass in Asian culture to use philanthropy also as a blatant marketing opportunity (or to talk about business in social contexts).. especially as businesses have way more real power than public sector companies in Asia today.

A Chinese manufacturer of telecoms kit I get stuff from gave away loads of equipment to areas devastated by earthquakes in South China a few years back, and made a similar press release out of it. they also work closely with a chap in Australia who is trying go get affordable telephones to various developing nations where they don't have them, and the Australian dude has a blog about this stuff.

Politics aside, you do get a lot of floods and earthquakes in Asia anyway..

One fault of the original Ezee bikes appears to be that they had problems with water ingress into the components (as flecc mentions on his website), so getting this Indian chap to ride the e-trike in the monsoon season is a good way of investigating this problem :D

if anything I'd like to know more about how the trike was built. Maybe its in the link leading to all the Asian script but I can't read it, I'd have to send the link to my nan but she doesn't use the computer much and the text would be way too small for her eyes :rolleyes:
 
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halfer

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PS I have to admit to being very sceptical about the whole climate change agenda and those who seem to be running advertising off the back of it.
Climate scientists are pretty much in near-unanimous agreement here: that climate change is partially man-made, and that the application of the precautionary principle is probably necessary given the potential risks we face. These are: desertification, water resource conflict, and increased food scarcity combined with populations growth.

Professional climate change skeptics are often paid (directly or indirectly) to be skeptical, and most of it comes from the companies who most benefit from the status quo. Some PR companies have been quite open about the process of slowing down the green agenda since the 1980s - all you need to do is "sow the seeds of doubt" in the public consciousness. Faced with a complex scientific problem, both the non-scientific public and the corporate-driven media opt for the easy way out: essentially, do nothing.

The strange thing is that even though the astroturfing campaigns and fake consumer groups set up by oil companies etc. have been exposed as frauds, the profit-motivated 'status quo' agenda rumbles on notwithstanding.
 

lemmy

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The problem is that the Indians, Chinese, Africans see the west with its 4WD and 300hp personal transport, wastage of food and profligate use of energy.

They then see scientists and opinion formers from the same nations flying(!) around the world lecturing everyone on climate change.

So, they think, you have all these things and your answer to global warming is not that you will give them up (might harm your economy), but that we shouldn't have them.

It won't wash. Westerners will never vote for radical downgrading of their living standards to save the world. Developing nations will continue to support governments that promise a rise in their living standards (wouldn't you?).

it's a bit like the Eagles' metaphor for the sweet life of the west, the Hotel California. You've experienced it and bought in to it.

"You can check out but you can never leave", as the words go.
 

Chief eZee Power

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The Link is totally irrelevant

You may well think linking a tragedy affecting 20 million people with e bike kits appropriate I certainly do not:rolleyes:
I just kind put the things together in one Thread instead of several, not that I think one person or more having an electric bike will save mankind. As I said earlier it is just like religion for me, I practice what I believe in, period , full stop, the end, does not expect any other to do likewise or otherwise.

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onmebike

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Jan 3, 2010
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I'm sceptical about manmade global warming for many reasons. Without doubt the planet has gone through many period's of being much warmer and colder. Considering that one minor volcanic eruption similar to that in Iceland recently is responsible for spewing far more carbons into the atmosphere than all other sources put together, I can't see mankinds attempts at reducing carbon emissions having any worthwhile impact, especially while developing countries are still developing and the worlds population continue's to grow.
Regarding scientific research, In most cases scientists have to prove there is need for research before getting funded, so its highly unlikely they'd simply discount global warming as a natural phenomenom.
What happened to the concerns over the hole in the ozone layer? Big scare amounting to nothing. Apparently the hole's are ever changing and are currently smaller than they were. It was only discovered in 1985 but could have been there for millions of years.
No one ever mentions it, but there must be some benefits to global warming?
 
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JuicyBike

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There is one undeniable truth: that oil will run out, in anywhere from between 10 and 50 years time.

There will inevitably be a time when the cost (in energy) of extracting one of the last barrels of oil is the same as the energy stored in that barrel of oil - that's when there's no point in extracting the stuff, however much is left underground.

I see electric bikes as a step towards being able to cope with the time when oil is too precious for most people to use! E-Bikes allow more people to use bikes and adapt transport habits to better cope with the transition from how things are now, to how things will become.

I think global warming is the least of our worries! Whatever steps (pedals :) ) we can take in a more positive direction, the better. Whether driven by GW Guilt or not, or whether GW is even valid, is irrelevent.

What's far more important is that our habits change, if only "just in case".
 
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