Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Pedelecs Electric Bike Community

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

this is really a big problem. The electric motor touches the brake. Please advise.

Featured Replies

Guys is there any way to fix this? I don't know how to deal with this. waiting for your ideas.

 

Thanks..

 

 

4444.thumb.jpg.eabafda428791cc6d87e4c30c95d1f14.jpg

  • Replies 81
  • Views 13.6k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

Speaking only for myself, I am unclear as to what you have for a problem!

I see that the axle fixing nut and washers are missing or appear to be either broken, or parts are removed or have fallen off, but the parts (disk/brake) you circled, are too unclear for anything better than guessing.

But having the axle not properly mounted and fixed in place, could cause severe problems with the disk brake....

May I suggest more photos from front, rear and sides. Maybe closer up, and your own description to accompany those photos.

Did you yourself remove the axle fixings, or have they just fallen off?

I personally see the problems to be from the area I have circled in black.....

But Ashampoo_Snap_03June2021_20h17m11s_001_.thumb.jpg.cd76ec65e94b70f0e8d2e9e98bd1464b.jpghopefully, one of our pros here can assist you far better than I can.

regards

Andy

Edited by Andy-Mat

Is it not that the hub can't yet be fixed with the shaft nut, simply because it fouls the calliper on initial offering up?

 

Frame spreading and inserting a spacer washer?

  • Author

Speaking only for myself, I am unclear as to what you have for a problem!

I see that the axle fixing nut and washers are missing or appear to be either broken, or parts are removed or have fallen off, but the parts (disk/brake) you circled, are too unclear for anything better than guessing.

But having the axle not properly mounted and fixed in place, could cause severe problems with the disk brake....

May I suggest more photos from front, rear and sides. Maybe closer up, and your own description to accompany those photos.

Did you yourself remove the axle fixings, or have they just fallen off?

I personally see the problems to be from the area I have circled in black.....

But h[ATTACH=full]42769[/ATTACH]opefully, one of our pros here can assist you far better than I can.

regards

Andy

Since the electric motor touched the brake part, I could not put it back and therefore I did not install those parts. I'm posting some more photos now. I hope this helps you understand the situation. I didn't break anything. I'm still trying to install this. When I put the wheel in its housing, I did not tighten the screws as the engine was touching the brake.

ccccc.thumb.jpg.ee027a03a1f370f9dfb740073c76eb6e.jpg

ddddd.thumb.jpg.ef4f414794de08c7bd85f09bdfa369f5.jpg

eeeeee.thumb.jpg.ac09f1bb2ff74c56b9b9117521fc0cf8.jpg

iiii.thumb.jpg.03ff8cfe4355b5d13615f5e42c5de698.jpg

mmmmm.thumb.jpg.7c3750cff66ae0c1f34b3ac9633707ef.jpg

oooo.thumb.jpg.17cc7b8ad27696780caf0c6ac88049fa.jpg

sssss.thumb.jpg.049c3345bb462f1c524aaf6bbcff9479.jpg

uuuu.thumb.jpg.2a0d0629ffd2a1f7f8dfffd1ca1c185c.jpg

Maybe fit a larger brake disc and use a calliper adapter to move the brake calliper further away.

Guys is there any way to fix this? I don't know how to deal with this. waiting for your ideas.

 

Insert an extra washer between the collar and the motor in the position shown by the red arrow below:

 

Clipboard01.jpg.d63a3730588061aa116fc5e5b93c6c7e.jpg

Hi, I think you have 2 choices...

 

Like [mention=4]flecc[/mention] says, I use the thinnest washer I can that will give me clearance. Best to loosen your brake caliper bolts before fitting the wheel as adding a washer will move the disk sideways - I always end up having to adjust the brakes after I've converted a bike to electric.

 

Or a brake upgrade as [mention=17177]davell[/mention] - you will need a larger disk and a new mounting to move the caliper away from the hub. Both are good solutions, the washer is a cheaper option ;)

  • Author

Insert an extra washer between the collar and the motor in the position shown by the red arrow below:

 

[ATTACH=full]42778[/ATTACH]

Hi, I think you have 2 choices...

 

Like [mention=4]flecc[/mention] says, I use the thinnest washer I can that will give me clearance. Best to loosen your brake caliper bolts before fitting the wheel as adding a washer will move the disk sideways - I always end up having to adjust the brakes after I've converted a bike to electric.

 

Or a brake upgrade as [mention=17177]davell[/mention] - you will need a larger disk and a new mounting to move the caliper away from the hub. Both are good solutions, the washer is a cheaper option ;)

yes, as our friend said, I added a new one, it worked, but now the brake is stuck on the disc. When I checked the setting, I saw that it stood farthest from the disk. so it looks like I'll need a new disc and brake caliper. :(

Often one has to upgrade the brake rotor to a larger diameter and fit the appropriate brake mount for rotor. One can try and space out the drop out width but the former is easier and saves pulling and puffing if you need to have the wheel out.
180mm is normally the minimum size rotor for a rear hub- motor, then you should always start your alignment from the left (brake) side. Your first task is to arrange washers and spacers to get the disc lined up with the centr of the caliper. For just about every motor I've fitted, that required one additional standard 12mm washer on the axle closest to the motor.
  • Author

180mm is normally the minimum size rotor for a rear hub- motor, then you should always start your alignment from the left (brake) side. Your first task is to arrange washers and spacers to get the disc lined up with the centr of the caliper. For just about every motor I've fitted, that required one additional standard 12mm washer on the axle closest to the motor.

son1.thumb.jpg.9079f2434b079d48b3c10b8badfd9721.jpgsonnnbb.thumb.jpg.bf623e12b8f61653c581565071dd0377.jpg

I tried to do as you said but I couldn't quite understand. I don't understand where I went wrong. As you can see in the photos, the brake caliper still touches the electric motor.

[ATTACH type=full" alt="42781]42781[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=full" alt="42782]42782[/ATTACH]

I tried to do as you said but I couldn't quite understand. I don't understand where I went wrong. As you can see in the photos, the brake caliper still touches the electric motor.

There's no 12mm washer on the axle closest to the motor, which is what I said you should do!

 

What size rotor do you have?

Did you fix the rotor to the motor?

The rotor needs to stand further out from the motor. You could achieve this by placing washers on the fixing screws between the disc and the motor

  • Author

I c

There's no 12mm washer on the axle closest to the motor, which is what I said you should do!

 

What size rotor do you have?

I understand. I don't have now but i will buy 12 mm washer. my rotor size is 140 mm.

  • Author

Did you fix the rotor to the motor?

The rotor needs to stand further out from the motor. You could achieve this by placing washers on the fixing screws between the disc and the motor

Probably my rotor is small for this motor?

Did you fix the rotor to the motor?

The rotor needs to stand further out from the motor. You could achieve this by placing washers on the fixing screws between the disc and the motor

Should I understand that I should buy a 180mm rotor as our friend said?

Hi, I think my Yose 350w kit is the same as yours, mine has a 160mm disk + axle spacer fitted and clearance is fine. Hope the photo exlains.

 

For testing, you could remove the rear calliper before a gentle ride up your street to check the motor is working - obviously not to use further than needed.

8B480B26-FDEF-4A03-8415-23ABEA2D645D.thumb.jpeg.eae7f87e40c0d052beceb755d1e0ca4f.jpeg

Let's try and apply a bit of logic. 140mm is definitely to small. 160mm will be close one way or the other. 180mm will definitely give you clearance.

 

I bet your front brake is 160mm, so borrow the disc off the front wheel. Put it on the motor with two screws and slide the caliper on to see how it looks - no need to install completely. If you have sufficient clearance, buy a 160mm rotor and a suitable adapter. The adapter you need is a 140/160mm. If you don't have clearance, you'll need a 180mm rotor aand a 140/180mm adapter.

  • Author
Thanks for your interest guys. I'm having a bike mechanic do this because I cut my finger. It will use 180mm rotor as you said. But he did not advise me to use the brake sensors. He said after a few months it would cause problems with the engine. Is this true?(I told him to put it on anyway because I want to use my own brake levers.)

Thanks for your interest guys. I'm having a bike mechanic do this because I cut my finger. It will use 180mm rotor as you said. But he did not advise me to use the brake sensors. He said after a few months it would cause problems with the engine. Is this true?(I told him to put it on anyway because I want to use my own brake levers.)

 

He doesn't know what he's talking about, brakes sensors/cut outs are there to protect the controller from frying. They have no effect on the motor.

Only one sensor /cut out is needed so fit it to the rear brake.

If you have a throttle fitted then a brake cut out is a good idea , other wise they aren't really necessary unless the PAS has a bit of over ride.
  • Author

He might be a mechanic, but he knows nothing about electronics/electrics.

I trusted you and told him to install the sensors anyway. You are really right. He said he tried installing sensors for the rear brake but couldn't. (He said there was no place to put the sensor and no distance.) This situation seemed a bit ridiculous to me. He said that if I use the front brake a little before the rear brake, the electric motor will stop anyway. I'm a little sorry I made him do this job. I will now look for a way to install the rear brake sensor. But the method of preventing the rotor from touching the electric motor is ingenious. Friends, I will share photos here as an example. (I'll be waiting for your comments on how the kit is installed)

  • Author

He doesn't know what he's talking about, brakes sensors/cut outs are there to protect the controller from frying. They have no effect on the motor.

Only one sensor /cut out is needed so fit it to the rear brake.

He said he installed the front brake sensor because I insisted, but couldn't find a way to install the rear brake sensor. I will find a way to connect the sensor to the rear brake as well.

  • Author

If you have a throttle fitted then a brake cut out is a good idea , other wise they aren't really necessary unless the PAS has a bit of over ride.

I don't use throttles but since I already have sensors I find it useful to use them. (I felt this when I tested the sensor on the front brake.)

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...
Background Picker
Customize Layout

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.