Supplier of 8fun bafang bpm hillclimber kit

Hi

 

im searching for a seller of the above named kit. i would prefer to purchase as a full ready to fit kit, but will look into buying seperatly if required. any help with this much appreciated.

 

p.s i have already seen the kit on the alien bike (aurora?) but i'm not keen on the actual bike & its somewhat to large frame size for me. i have emailed alien direct & am still awaiting a reply as to them supplying just the kit.

 

thanks

jason

Edited September 12, 201015 yr by jayuk

BMS BATTERY have them on their website, but i'm not sure of their reputation/reliability

 

BMSBATTERY!, The Art of Battery

 

I did have another website link, but can't seem to find it.

 

Keep us posted if you discover any reputable sellers of these kits

Prices seem far too cheap, I notice they don`t quote delivery cost till you are commited:eek:

Not used BMS Battery but I've seen posts over on the ES forum form some who have, they deliver OK but communication is a bit of a problem....something gets lost in translation!

 

You could try ebike-solutions.de This is the company that bought das-elektrorad after Frank decided to call it a day. The stie is in German but run it through Google translator...they have the Bafang BPM motor listed...

Bafang BPM supplier

 

Hi

 

Paul a.k.a cell_man on EndlessSphere used to sell the BPM for a good price and has good feedback. Endless-sphere.com • View topic - Puma 500W Rear-140USD. 500W Front, 350W 135USD. I get 5% per sale

 

HTH

 

Spike

You could try ebike-solutions.de This is the company that bought das-elektrorad after Frank decided to call it a day. The stie is in German but run it through Google translator...they have the Bafang BPM motor listed...

 

Make sure to purchase a proper 20+ Amps controller that can be configured via firmware updates (USB/Serial lead), rather than the small 15A (so they say) long and narrow controller. I've been told that the latter is good for off-the-shelf e-bikes that require no tweaking, but not great for DIY'ers The neat electric connections look nice but they obviously offer less flexibility than the wire mess on a good old ugly Infineon / eCrazyman controller

 

http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/electric-bicycles/5353-neat-8-fun-suzhou-bafang-cable-connectors.html

Have used BMS battery to buy LiFePO4 cells, a bms and a charger to build a battery. I found them to be perfectly OK, although the delivery was a little slow (possibly because of shipping regs. re: Li battery cells). Goods were fine and communication via email was no problem, although perhaps a little terse!

You can get a delivery charge from their website before the final commit to buy button is pressed. Delivery was cheaper than from Ping, if buying one of his ready made batteries. I would use them again.

Incidentally if you are building a hub motor system they are a good source of made to measure 13g spokes, at a very good price.

Hope this helps.

 

Phil

Thanks for all the replys!

 

i'm still getting the funds together for the kit at the moment.

 

Does anybody know if there are any import charges from germany to the UK?

 

 

Daniel: any chance you could point me in the right direction for a programmable 20a controller?

 

Having sold my original bike with the 8fun swxk front hub motor (disc brake) kit on, i'm hoping that the bpm motor will be a worthwhile step up,

not so much speed wise as its only about 6mph faster than my original kit but i would like more torque.

 

thanks

jason

Edited October 7, 201015 yr by jayuk

I've emailed ebike-solutions a few times and received no reply, not even an acknowledgment...so I've given up with them, wish Frank was still running the business the new lot are flipping useless!

 

E-crazy man on ebay can supply programable controllers I have a 36v 20amp one on the way which I directly asked for

Jason, no import charges through EEC, but should be easy to check this.

Absolutely no duties on imports from an EU country. That's the whole point of it.

 

Edit - except when the Govt decides to charge extra for cars and anything else they see fit, of course.

I've emailed ebike-solutions a few times and received no reply, not even an acknowledgment...so I've given up with them, wish Frank was still running the business the new lot are flipping useless!

 

They responded quickly to my queries...try again ?

 

E-crazy man on ebay can supply programable controllers I have a 36v 20amp one on the way which I directly asked for

 

yep:

 

eBay My World - e-crazyman

I may have found a supplier from germany for the bpm hub ready laced into a black 26" rim. Unfortunatly they only have the 20" & 28" bpm in stock but they did offer me the 20" type laced into a 26" rim, would this make it slighty faster but a little less torque?

 

the price quoted was approx £320 just for the 36v 350w hub motor laced into a rim & delivered to the uk.

the price seems quite high compared to direct from china prices but at least i would avoid any customs charges, they are also quick to reply to any questions.

 

the companys web address is:

 

ebike-solutions.de

 

 

This would still need me to purchase a suitable battery & controller, would a 36v 10ah li-ion be enough to cover approx 20 miles as i would be able to purchase a new battery through sunlova.

Jay, I've already mentioned them in an earlier post. IMHO they are rubbish, tried again after Dan said he found them OK....still no reply. The business used to be run by Frank but the new owners seem to be ruining it. However, all is not lost as Frank has a new website at Elektrofahrrad, pedelec zubehör and posts here as 'mechaniker'...drop him a PM.

Oh forgot to add, since I've been away travelling my Ecrazyman controller and 3 speed switch showed up. Took just 5 days to arrive, shiped from London configured for 20amps...My Alien GSII is about to get a power boost

Jay, I've already mentioned them in an earlier post. IMHO they are rubbish, tried again after Dan said he found them OK....still no reply. The business used to be run by Frank but the new owners seem to be ruining it. However, all is not lost as Frank has a new website at Elektrofahrrad, pedelec zubehör and posts here as 'mechaniker'...drop him a PM.

 

 

As far as i can see in my pidgeon german, the site only sells to businesses. No single sales

Maybe Frank, sorry mechaniker will clear this up

Good range of items for sale too

NRG

 

for some reason i thought it was a different site but maybe they have improved comunication as i had a reply with a breakdown of costs within 24hrs.

 

 

Fordulike

 

I also spotted the no single sales, does seem a shame. maybe he would still deal with forum members to supply too?

 

 

 

jay

Well knock me down with a feather! Ebike solutions have sent a rely However, they don't have the controller I was after in stock and anyhow I now have one and the cost was a lot lower...

 

I hadn't seen the single sales part on Frank's site.... perhaps if there is enough interest in a particular item or items we could group together and create a larger order....

Edited October 15, 201015 yr by NRG

NRG

 

sounds like a good ideal!

 

hopefully someone can contact frank to find out?

 

jay

If there is relly an intrest, you must know i have an Importservice so every order i place in China at the Producer and it need around 3-4weeks before you would receive the stuff.

i have made an example to make clear the cost, 8Motor is minimum order:

 

4x BPM Motor different rpm is possible

4x SWXK Motordifferent rpm is possible

4x Controller Crazyman with PAS and 3speed switch

4x Controller Kingmeter with LCD-Display and PAS (it is 5speed switch)

8x Thumpthrottle

8x Brakelever 3finger-typ (pair)

 

this item´s will cost complete 1590,00Euro including German tax to your door

Inside european country is no further tax. This price is including deliver-fee to britain.

 

on Motor you can choose sensorless or with hall

 

But you also must realise, The China Producer like Bafang or Mac or who ever, usualy never give warranty on there products. And my company is only an Importservice, it is complete your risk, I say this very serious for in case somebody belief there would be warranty, no way!. In other way i never had trouble with bafang motor ;-)

 

In case there is intrest in this way of order i can send the proforma invoice for this item so that you can check all position on that invoice, Example a BPM Motor is 74,00Euro or a SWXK is 54,00Euro sound is cheap rigth, the rest is tax and postway ;-(

 

and you also must live with my terrible english if you want order;-)

 

Have a good day

frank

Edited October 15, 201015 yr by mechaniker

There's a clearly a market here for somebody to step up and provide a European retail interface between the DIY market and all the various suppliers. The problem is that it takes quite a bit of capital to carry the stock and handle the warranty side. The OP is not the only person to ask questions like this.

 

I'm not sure where this is going to come from. Whether its one of the big bicycle retailers like Evans or ChainReaction, one of the existing shops like Alien or the Electric Transport Shop or people like Mechaniker expanding their business.

 

Whisper and their Daahub is one approach that really just makes what Alien were doing with their kits but more professional. There are some fairly obvious complete packages that could be made up for DIY conversions. The problem is those of us who are never quite satisfied or want something a bit customised or different from the package. We want to be able to mix and match with a specific SB (BMS, Puma, etc) motor in a specific rim to a specific controller to a specific battery and battery mounting system and then to be able to get all the individual bits (switches, sensors, controls, plugs, sockets, torque arms, brake levers, etc etc) to make it actually work.

 

A lot of that is just traditional bicycle shop stock in a slightly different area. For the big bits, it should be possible to reduce the range to a few key components. The trick is to pick the right ones and have some custom assembly (like rim lacing) at point of sale. I should be able to spec 48v BPM 26(13) in a 700c rim, or QSWXH 36V(20") - 7 speed shimano, 26" rim. Batteries might be hard, but even here we're converging on 2 voltages, 2 capacities, 2 chemistries and 2 mounting techniques. That's a lot of combinations but several of them can be ignored. Even working with Ping for truly custom packs could be improved by a European specialist who provided the interface between the end-user and the manufacturer.

 

NRG: I'm sure you will, but do please keep us informed of how your Alien GS-E-Crazyman upgrade goes.

Will do. Also agree with your post, real opportunity maybe but I wonder how big the DIY market really is. Offering different build choices would be a nightmare but if just component supply it may prove less problamatic.

I wonder how big the DIY market really is. Offering different build choices would be a nightmare but if just component supply it may prove less problamatic.

 

Well there's how big it is now, and how big it might be. Whisper are taking a bet that they can grow the market by providing a more packaged, professional, complete kit from the kind of DIY offered by Alien. So in broad terms they think it's big enough now to justify the investment. Then there's DIY and DIY. There's a lot of people out there who can bolt bits on bicycles and would do it, if the price was low enough and the package complete and straight forward enough. There's rather fewer who are prepared to mix and match and get the soldering iron, crimpers and duct tape out. I suspect there's a lot of us somewhere in between as well. Not afraid to modify things with a hacksaw, drill and dremel, but not up to building battery packs from scratch.

 

The build choices are awkward but I think not impossible to handle. Before I got my Aurora, I approached Alien and posted here about obtaining an Aurora kit to fit an existing hybrid with the right width rear drop outs but with 700c wheels. This doesn't seem so unreasonable and it's pretty much what the OP is asking for as well. Alien wouldn't do it, because it wasn't a package they were already bringing in from China already boxed up and they couldn't mix and match. And back in August, we couldn't find any other EU supplier or the right combination direct from SE Asia either. If you had a warehouse of the parts, you could just shelf pick with the one exception being the BPM-700c. Now if you outsourced to a local who can lace wheels, you could offer motor A plus rim B on a 5 day turn around. Now you've just got to stock a range of motors to suit. That's perhaps 4 rear (250w-500w-750w 26"/700c, 250w 20") and 2 front (250w 26"/700c - 250w 20"). Or something.

I may have found a supplier from germany for the bpm hub ready laced into a black 26" rim. Unfortunatly they only have the 20" & 28" bpm in stock but they did offer me the 20" type laced into a 26" rim, would this make it slighty faster but a little less torque?

 

the price quoted was approx £320 just for the 36v 350w hub motor laced into a rim & delivered to the uk.

the price seems quite high compared to direct from china prices but at least i would avoid any customs charges, they are also quick to reply to any questions.

 

the companys web address is:

 

ebike-solutions.de

 

250w kit for 300 , thats rip-off if ever i saw one !!

 

I could get the 1 k kit form the US with shipping cheaper..through my

shipper, and probably the batteries too from BMS below.

 

http://www.bmsbattery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25&products_id=110

I have now ordered my BPM hillclimber kit from "cell man" well known on the endless sphere forums & extremely helpfull too!.

 

I will post photos when all up & running

 

i ordered a complete kit

 

Bpm 8fun hub motor in a black 26" rim & black SS spokes

48v 16s4p 9.2ah A123 battery pack

48v 25A controller (can be programmed via usb if needed)

 

 

I cant wait to get my hands it!!

 

jay