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Spokes for Oxydrive Wheel

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On my way to work yesterday a spoke broke on my 500 mile old Oxydrive wheel.

 

Having been to a local bike shop today they apparently can't do these type of spokes. More like motorbike spokes apparently??

 

Any idea what I can do?

Give Andrew a ring to see if he has any if no luck pm me. I can send you some of mine if you were to send a big enough SAE as I rebuilt mine in to new rims so that they match and used 14g spokes in a different cross pattern.
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Thanks, do you know if the existing spokes are 14g? 14g appear easy to get hold of via ebay.

 

The existing spokes appear 215mm long with a 15mm nipple

A competent bike shop could cut a spoke to length and rethread it.

 

When you source a spare, be sure to get a few.

 

Unfortunately, there is usually a domino effect with broken spokes, once one goes, others will follow.

 

A better job is a rebuild with all new spokes.

 

A cheaper alternative is to slacken all the spokes and then re-tension.

 

Simply replacing the broken one may work, but it is the solution least likely to.

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In an ideal world I'd replace the lot but I want the bike back on the road asap. I've used the car today but 'er indoors needs that back tomorrow so I'm doing a 14 mile commute on my Brompton...... not good.....

 

My longer term plan is to get the hub rebuilt into a better quality rim.

 

To be honest, I've met real resistance with our local bike shops today. As soon as they see the hub they just say they can't help. Its not like its a 1000w motor, its a perfectly legal one!

In an ideal world I'd replace the lot but I want the bike back on the road asap. I've used the car today but 'er indoors needs that back tomorrow so I'm doing a 14 mile commute on my Brompton...... not good.....

 

My longer term plan is to get the hub rebuilt into a better quality rim.

 

To be honest, I've met real resistance with our local bike shops today. As soon as they see the hub they just say they can't help. Its not like its a 1000w motor, its a perfectly legal one!

 

Frightened by what they don't understand.

 

Pity, because there's nothing to be frightened of.

 

The other possibility is none of them is capable of rebuilding any wheel, but I would hope they are not that incompetent.

Give Andrew a ring to see if he has any if no luck pm me. I can send you some of mine if you were to send a big enough SAE as I rebuilt mine in to new rims so that they match and used 14g spokes in a different cross pattern.

What cross pattern was the original and what did you change it to Nealh?

Ian the oxydrive aren't 14g, I think they are 13g/ 2.34mm.

 

Awol the original was a 1x, having never built a wheel or trued a wheel before I naïvely got spokes for 3x thinking to build in a pattern to match the front.

In building I had two issues; 1. I had to redrill and debur a new valve hole as I couldn't get the connector on the valve very easily, I used a grommet on the old hole; 2 The ends of the spokes in to the nipple all have a little set in them as the angle for the nipple wasn't 100% when the nipples were seated ( The set occurred naturally as I tensioned the spokes and the nipple became seated).

I have built it with a 3x pattern and so far have had no problems if I do then I will rebuild as a 2x. The 3x cross would suit a 120mm lighter hub but isn't the right pattern for the 180mm cst/bpm hub.

Having now practiced building / rebuilding and trueing an old wheel several times I appear to get a nice wheel built and rebuilt my front wheel as well with black spokes (I could have done it easier and just sprayed them).

I could have got a LBS to do it but there is no fun in that and also you don't learn anything except that is costs £'s to get it done.

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Thanks, i've ordered some 13g spokes.

 

Nealh, what sort of tools do you use for wheel building??

Nothing special at all Ian, I use is a normal slotted ( nice fitting ) screwdriver some use a cordless and a bog std spoke tool for a quid or 2 off Fleabay and a little

lube on the threads. Plus my home built true stand that works very well, I don't use a tool to measure the tension, I just ping/pluck the spokes so that they ring about the same also to release any tension in them during and after the build I just squeeze 4 together and work around the wheel. The results I'm getting look good and work so far no loose or damaged spokes.

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Just measured a spoke originally supplied and the ones I have are 188mm for 26" wheel am guessing you have a larger wheel with 13/14mm nipple.
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I've got a 700c wheel hence the slightly longer spoke with a 13mm nipple. I didn't use any fancy calculator, I just measured a non broken spoke.

 

The spokes arrived yesterday and fit perfectly. Its spurring me on to build the hub into a really tough new rim for our 'wonderful' British roads.

 

I've ordered a spoke key online to finish the job off. Maybe i'll have a go at the DIY truing stand when I get time. Thanks again.

You can use the bike frame as a truing stand.

 

A couple of zip ties on the stays with the tags cut to length and pointing at the rim will give a good guide.

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Having replaced the spoke and generally tightened every spoke a bit, I attacked it again last night.

 

I had worn the brake pads down to the metal so replaced them. On doing so it became apparent that the lack of what I believe is called 'dish' in the wheel was going to prevent getting the brakes set up properly and the wheel had vitually no clearance to the frame on one side.

 

So by setting up one of the V brakes into a central position I 'dished' the wheel by tightening the spokes progressively. At first I thought it was a mistake but after 15mins i'd got it really straight, where I wanted it and with all the spokes quite tight.

 

For the first time since having it, the wheel no longer TINGS as it goes round! :D

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