Smog and breathing issues - what protection to use?

jonathan75

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Hey all,

My Bafang CST HT kit is a monster and munches the miles - but unfortunately after the two pretty alright journeys I've done on it (both from sunny Hertfordshire to central London) I've developed breathing problems and can't really breathe properly, talk, or sleep without using an asthma inhaler every few hours! Dramatic I know! I'm on Loratadine (antihistamines) too but that isn't doing the trick.

My question is what breathing protection to use. My GP stresses that it must filter fine particulates, but the question is do I go for a respirator (like the Moldex 7000, or 8000 which I already own) despite it making me look very strange, or do I just get a paper style facemask which looks less strange but doesn't do the job according to a recent persuasive study (too much leakage).

P2 is what I've read is the minimum particulate level protection. I bought the biologic pollution mask (marketed for cyclists) on Amazon but when it arrived the cartridges were only for organic vapours, not particulates. They are RC202 type.

What breathing protection would you use in my position? Do you think the biologic looks slightly less uncool than the 7000 or 8000? Does anyone know whether the RC202 cartridges for the biologic can be swapped round with identical fit P2 or greater particulate filters?

Supposedly the Moldex 7000 is 'sleeker' than the 8000 (!)

7000:



vs the 8000 (which I own already):
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vs the biologic:

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flecc

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I don't know, but you are definitely going to frighten the horses!

Seriously, is it mainly a pollen issue, that's been extremely high currently.
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jonathan75

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I am aren't I, proper scary!

No I don't think it's pollen. The opinion of my GP is that it is the particulates from the diesel fumes, rather than pollen. The antihistamines have suppressed my immune response to pollens and I'm not getting any hayfever symptoms (severe asthma aside).

But even if you're right and it is hayfever, I'm primarily concerned about protecting myself going forward, from smog and fine diesel particulates when riding the bike - they're the real nasties!
 
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Kuorider

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Check with the maker of the respirators, they will advise on the best unit for your requirements.
 

jonathan75

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Good to get your feedback on how it looks, Flecc. I think I need to find one that has a balance of protection and monstrous appearance!
 
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OldBob1

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You maybe better to check out some of these PPE companies that supply these hoods that blow filter air across you face and the filter and battery motor unit are fitted to a waist belt, maybe able to fit it to a cycle helmet?
 
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jonathan75

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Thanks Trex, I have the respro techno actually but it hurts my nose! It's the metal clip. I gather the filter is FFP1 rather than the recommended FFP2 minimum rating for city diesel.
 

tillson

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if it's mainly a pollen issue, believe it or not local honey really works
It definitely does work. I guy that I work with has set up a couple of hives on the airfield and gives the honey to the hay fever sufferers who work there. It doesn't completely cure them, but does reduces the symptoms dramatically.
 
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You maybe better to check out some of these PPE companies that supply these hoods that blow filter air across you face and the filter and battery motor unit are fitted to a waist belt, maybe able to fit it to a cycle helmet?
Where does the air come from?
 

Kuorider

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Send me a bin bag and I'll fill it with air from the top of Ben Ledi. Inhale while enjoying a fine Malt and you will feel much better.
 
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OldBob1

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Dave the air on these units are filtered on the belt unit and blow a flow of air across the face, better then a face mask type filter.
 

anotherkiwi

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Doesn't come in white, :( with a Uvex helmet you could get a nice storm trooper look going. A fake laser rifle strapped to the back and trucks would stay well clear...

Seriously as a pollen allergic bike rider I understand your problem Jonathan. In my case it is a mask for eye protection which is most needed. One that doesn't get all hot inside and which doesn't fog up...
 
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jonathan75

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I discovered a sort of solution today, to smog, albeit not pollen, sorry :-(

This app is a cycle satnav, which lets me choose four different types of route: fastest, shortest, balanced or 'quietest', quietest meaning least smog. It's 30% longer than the other routes but I can breathe better, a lot better, and it's also a lot more peaceful. You do need a handlebar grip mount for the mobile though (link below).

I'm going to do a new thread on it when I've time as it's so good.

There are streets where things are too smoggy and like with the pollen I think the answer is to just have no shame about wearing scary looking stuff. Unfortunately I'm feeling too chicken at the moment. I'm going to work up to it and when I find the courage I'll post pics.

http://www.cyclestreets.net/mobile/

http://r.ebay.com/zP12fr
 
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jonathan75

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So I found a brilliant disposable particulate mask: the 3m 9322 - which is a P2 (the minimum level of particulate protection recommended for diesel fumes). The builders on Screwfix reviews swear by it and they're right to. Great seal around the face and it doesn't look aggressive. Easy to breathe out. The others I bought from Screwfix and eBay were utter rubbish for seal. Better than the P1 (lesser protection) which Respro offers and which is an inadequate formal level according to a scientific abstract of a paper I read. On eBay from maybe £1.60 each. On Screwfix for about double that. It says disposable but I'll keep it going for a while.
 
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flecc

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So I found a brilliant disposable particulate mask: the 3m 9322 - which is a P2 (the minimum level of particulate protection recommended for diesel fumes).
Looks like a simple and visually acceptable solution Jonathan. As you say it should do a few trips and if you can manage with using one every five day week, not a punitive cost.
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