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Bobajob

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Picking up from a comment on another post, would fellow forumites dob in someone if they are breaking the social distancing etc., etc. regulations?
 

soundwave

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what law there is no legislation to enforce it buy a court of law there is only guidance atm.



legislation has to be passed buy parliament b4 it can be made a law of the land and even if it was there are no where near the police numbers to even think about it.

our local shop would not be able to open if this was the case same as trains and busses ect and not much point in fines if no one has any money to pay it lol.
 

flecc

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Picking up from a comment on another post, would fellow forumites dob in someone if they are breaking the social distancing etc., etc. regulations?
No , I think this is matter for social conscience and not law.

I'm joined in that view by former Home Secretary David Blunkett and our retired Supreme Court judge Jeremy Sumption.

Laws should only be passed when they can achieve something. The person who will ignore good advice and the person who will ignore the law are one and the same person, making a law pointless.
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Wicky

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What can you do?
People facing problems with their housemates should try to address the problem directly, according to consultant psychologist Dr Elena Touroni.

She says it's important to highlight "the consequences of their behaviour" and try to set limits on what's acceptable.

"The person has to emphasise that they are feeling unsafe," she says, adding that this should be done in a calm and serious conversation.

"And if the person gets angry, let them vent before approaching them again.

"It's important to hear all sides of the story, and actually validate their feelings. Maybe they feel genuinely frustrated by social distancing.

She says by listening, there's more chance to get something in return - such as a change in behaviour.

If all else fails then...

 
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RossG

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Social distancing works as it's shown to do so but unfortunately most people don't/wont accept the rules or law as it stands. I have to say retired judges making statements like it shouldn't be applied because people would become so stressed they would have heart attacks and peg it is just crass stupidity from an individual who should know better. To quote him> "Millions of people who are not especially vulnerable and will suffer only mild symptoms or none at all like the Health Secretary and the Prime Minister" my God is this crackpot for real !!!
 

Wander

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what law there is no legislation to enforce it buy a court of law there is only guidance atm.
Actually the legislation was passed on 26 March 2020, being The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions)(England) Regulations 2020.
 
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soundwave

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and it ends in 6 months as it is part of the emergency powers and thus not legislation so say.

crown prosecution would be a last resort and could only be enforced for 6 months that it last for.

i doubt no one will get that far with it imo and why just getting fines. tho that guy that did the hospital video showing it was empty got 3 months i think lol
 

Muddyfox

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Does Social Distancing and staying home work ?
Tradition has it that every Sunday my 3 siblings and our children and grandchildren visit my parents for a general get together and a few drinks. Since we were advised to Social distance and stay home the whole family have missed 4 Sundays with my parents. Despite living less than 2 miles apart the whole family has ceased social contact. Not easy . My daughter contracted Covid-19 , through her work in prisons, and is now,thankfully, on the slow road to recovery. If we had continued , against advise, to visit my parents there could have easily been another 20 Covid-19 hospital cases and with my parents well into their late 80's , my sibling and myself all early to late 60's the potential for ICU and possible death's.
Does Social Distancing and staying home work ? From my point of view YES.
This also explains why I felt no guilt in drawing a CPO's attention to 5 teenagers loitering outside a closed Youth club. They were there when I went on my exercise bike ride and still there 40 minutes later upon my return. The CPO received an uncalled for amount of verbal abuse for his dispersal advice as the teenagers left no doubt to loiter elsewhere.
 

soundwave

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Good luck with arguing that one, it is 100% legislation.
S T A T U T O R Y I N S T R U M E N T S

it says what it is at the top off the letter and like i said it will end in 6 months and is part of the emergency powers.

thus why most will get a fine as there are more holes in it than Swiss cheese to throw every one in jail and fight court battles.

they can also throw you in a loony bin if they wanted to as well as many other things.
 

Wander

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S T A T U T O R Y I N S T R U M E N T S

it says what it is at the top off the letter and like i said it will end in 6 months and is part of the emergency powers.
Er which makes it legislation!
"Statutory Instruments (SIs) are a form of legislation which allow the provisions of an Act of Parliament to be subsequently brought into force or altered without Parliament having to pass a new Act. They are also referred to as secondary, delegated or subordinate legislation."
 
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soundwave

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yes but it is temporary but can be extended but wont last forever like murder
 

sjpt

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and if necessary will be renewed (without gap) as the 6 months are up. (May be renewed even if not necessary(
 

soundwave

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well there are 3 bailiffs out side and some ones car is going pmsl
 

soundwave

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and they have taken it away on a back of a lorry and tbh what a thing to do at a time like this but hey they dont give a crap pmsl.