question on Freego battery

gray198

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On my new Eagle when using on full power the indicator lights can go down to 1 or 2 if going up a hill, but then recover when back on flat. Is this normal and just a sign of the load on the battery. So if the lights go back to 5 does this mean that there is plenty of life in battery? How reliable is this as an indicator. Also the light on top of the battery itself. Is this accurate. When is it best to recharge the battery. Should it be run down or perhaps only to 50%?.


thanks gray
 

JuicyBike

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That sounds normal for Li-Ion batteries at about halfway through their charge on a steep hill. Lithium batteries do drop their voltage under heavy load, and the indicator shows the voltage present at the battery. Nothing to worry about, unless the battery is fully charged when this symptom shows.
 

flecc

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Lithium batteries should be charged often and preferably not ruin down to empty if that can be avoided, so charge when half emptied whenever possible. As Juicybike says, your symptoms are perfectly normal and common on e-bikes.

The battery meters are not very accurate and readings are affected by running conditions, for more on that see my Battery Meters article in the technical section.
 

steve.c

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Hi. Nothing to worry about I will recharge my Eagle battery every day when working and every other day depending on milage when not and mine will still go down to 1 light up steep hills even though I stand up and push on the pedals hard and in 12months I've done the best part of 3000 miles if not more??. Steve.
 

Eaglerider

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Hi gray198,

All perfectly normal. Whilst riding on pedelec mode, the lights are just a measure of the voltage available at the terminals, as current is drawn the voltage drops. When you stop riding the lights quickly recover to all 4 lights on. The best check of remaining range is after the bike has been stationary for about 15 seconds or so. Even if you have been showing only one lght during a hillclimb, the battery will quickly recover voltage, although its ability to recover reduces as the charge is used up.

Starting with a freshly charged battery, I can maintain 4 lights (at rest) for about 30 miles with moderate pedalling. Once the static reading at rest shows 3 lights, you have used about 65% of available 'fuel'.

When you are on max assist, the bike will be drawing current most of the time, as lights go out as you ride along you can see how much current is being used. Often, a switch to medium assist will greatly reduce current usage, but you do tend to travel a bit slower or do more work, you'll soon get used to it.

When 2 lights show at rest, you have less than a 1/4 of a 'tank' left. If my planned journey is less than about 36 miles, I tend to go max power all the way because it's fun. With medium effort, 50 miles is easily achieved.

The lights on top of the battery seem to be a little optomistic. My guage reads 2 green lights when it is flat, so I ignore them and rely on the handlebar lights. The battery management system will cut all power long before all the charge is used. It has to keep some charge to maintain stability of the cells.

As you use up the battery, eventually it will cut out under heavy load, but recover if you reduce assistance. At the end it just stops and wont regain power.

Apropos charging, I discharged mine to flat twice to 'condition' it, which I had read was the thing to do. Ever since, if I do more than 7 miles or so, I top it up after pretty much every ride. If you do flatten the battery, you must charge it immediately, don't leave it for a few days or the battery gremlins will come to haunt you!

Glad you're having fun.
 

gray198

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Steve C and Eaglerider,

Thanks so much for your answers, that really clears everything up for me. Eaglerider, are you anywhere near the South Downs electric cycleway. May be coming down to Hastings this summer and hope to bring bikes (if I can get a carrier at a reasonable price) so maybe we can get together for that shandy

gray
 

Eaglerider

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Hastings is just about 8 miles away, nothing for an Eagle. I would be happy to meet up and show you some of the local rides, and then, if you insist, we could indeed drink some beer.

Beachy Head is about 14 miles away (rather steep!!) but its great coming back down.
PM me if you do come down this way.