Now this might be worth keeping an eye on....

overlander

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The cheapest i have ever seen them discounted to is £1300 as Trek do not allow massive discounts. The way some dealers get round it is offer it as a ex demo, but trust me you have no chance of getting a full choice at £1200. But the typical selling price is about £1700 mark so should be interesting what it goes for.
 
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vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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The cheapest i have ever seen them discounted to is £1600 as Trek do not allow massive discounts. The way some dealers get round it is offer it as a ex demo, but trust me you have no chance of getting a full choice at £1200.
Yes. It is the Valencia and available, according to my source today, at £1220.00 with maybe a little negotiation still left!
 

overlander

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Apr 22, 2009
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I tried the valencia after i got my Fx and it was a nice bike but more designed for commuting. The bike just felt more sluggish than the FX but for commuting the guards and upright position was better for commuting. You could not buy the kit for that as although they do not advertise it, the motor is the 350 HT and all you need to do is change the console over and you get the full power.
 

vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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Hi.
Shill Bidding in progress!

Just taken another look at the ebay bidding and it seems the present highest bidder is probably the seller!

The highest bidder has bid on 5 different items from the same seller in the past 30 days. All of the bids made by the highest bidder are on items from the same seller. Conclusion? The seller is bidding on his own item. You need to be aware of this if you are at all interested.
 

morphix

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morphix

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Hi.
Shill Bidding in progress!

Just taken another look at the ebay bidding and it seems the present highest bidder is probably the seller!

The highest bidder has bid on 5 different items from the same seller in the past 30 days. All of the bids made by the highest bidder are on items from the same seller. Conclusion? The seller is bidding on his own item. You need to be aware of this if you are at all interested.
Ah thats no good foul play :(
 

eddieo

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Jul 7, 2008
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Hi.
Shill Bidding in progress!

Just taken another look at the ebay bidding and it seems the present highest bidder is probably the seller!

The highest bidder has bid on 5 different items from the same seller in the past 30 days. All of the bids made by the highest bidder are on items from the same seller. Conclusion? The seller is bidding on his own item. You need to be aware of this if you are at all interested.
I am shocked (not!) lol. If you see an auction for something nice. with no reserve, no realistic start price, or even a "buy it now" be VERY cautious, as they will force up the bidding by cheating...

yes I know hard to believe but it happens:p
 

vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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Amazingly, the highest bid has now been removed! Took a bit of direct prompting but it worked. He will probably bid again via a mate.
 
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Yes, but if he wins the bid, he'll be stuck with an ebay bill for £80 and keeps his bike.
What some people do when you're the highest bid, is to put in a much higher bid so that they can see your actual highest bid. Then they retract the bid, knowing how high you'll go, so that they can decide what to do. Sellers get friends to do it too, and then get another friend to bid just below your highest, so that you still win but pay the maximum. That's why I never bid until the last 3 seconds.
 

vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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Yes, but if he wins the bid, he'll be stuck with an ebay bill for £80 and keeps his bike.
What some people do when you're the highest bid, is to put in a much higher bid so that they can see your actual highest bid. Then they retract the bid, knowing how high you'll go, so that they can decide what to do. Sellers get friends to do it too, and then get another friend to bid just below your highest, so that you still win but pay the maximum. That's why I never bid until the last 3 seconds.
Hi.
That's an interesting one! Had the evidence not pointed elsewhere then it could have provided the answer here. In this case the highest bidder had placed 7 bids against 5 items in the past 30 days. The giveaway was that all 7 bids were placed on items on sale from the one seller.
Regards
Vectra
 

Hurricane

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Jan 31, 2010
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Obviously since the seller was made redundant as stated in the ad he would like to get as much as he can for his worldly goods. I would be VERY cautious if bidding on this item.
As said before his mates will be helping him out. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is!
 

vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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Yes, but if he wins the bid, he'll be stuck with an ebay bill for £80 and keeps his bike.
What some people do when you're the highest bid, is to put in a much higher bid so that they can see your actual highest bid. Then they retract the bid, knowing how high you'll go, so that they can decide what to do. Sellers get friends to do it too, and then get another friend to bid just below your highest, so that you still win but pay the maximum. That's why I never bid until the last 3 seconds.
Hmmm. The current high bidder has made 12 bid retractions on bids to 12 different sellers. Can't really take this seriously.
 
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Hmmm. The current high bidder has made 12 bid retractions on bids to 12 different sellers. Can't really take this seriously.
How do you get all that information? Are you talking about O***s(444) as the high bidder because my Ebay doesn't show me that information?
 

vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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How do you get all that information? Are you talking about O***s(444) as the high bidder because my Ebay doesn't show me that information?
Hi.
Click on Bids then click on O***s. this will reveal information including the number of bid retractions made.
 

Mike63

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Oct 23, 2008
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"The seller is bidding on his own item. You need to be aware of this if you are at all interested. "

....Is that legal ? ....I suspect Ebay will say not.
 

vectra

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Feb 5, 2011
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"The seller is bidding on his own item. You need to be aware of this if you are at all interested. "

....Is that legal ? ....I suspect Ebay will say not.
No, it's not legal as one guy will tell you as he serves his sentence for shill bidding on ebay. Sentenced about 9 months ago as I remember.
Regards
Vectra
 

eddieo

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Oop's!:confused::p
 
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Hi.
Click on Bids then click on O***s. this will reveal information including the number of bid retractions made.
I seeall that, but I can't see how to link the bid retractions to the bike seller.