New to e bikes and looking for one for 20km commute and bikepacking and touring. Im fit and usually do 5 day bike tours with all my gear, averaging 45 miles a day. I envisage using an ebike on minimal assist most of the time. My ideal range would be about 60 km. Not sure whether to go with a light bike with small battery so i could cycle unassisted or a heavier bike with bigger battery and more range. Budget about £2200. Any ideas ?
Newbie needing touring bike
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Right, first post time (long time reader - thanks for all the knowledge everyone). I can't resist getting in on all this ship chat. Were the latest batch of Caminos also on the Ever Greet?
I'm also really curious as to what happens next. I'm picturing a lorry driving down from Felixstowe with a shipping container full of bike bits and dumping it outside your shop, but I suspect that's not quite it!
These are really nice looking bikes, wish I had seen these before!Woosh Camino perhaps?
you can get about 50 miles with the 15AH battery, 60 miles with the 17AH battery.Camino MTB electric bicycle from Woosh
The Woosh Camino, a very sturdy electric bike with hydraulic brakes 36V 15/17AH battery from Woosh. Price range: �£1049-�£1119.wooshbikes.co.uk
The Camino is fully equipped with rack, mudguards and reasonably lightweight.
If you want a branded heavy (23.5kg) touring bike then the Cube Touring model bikes are good value and will easily have the range you need. Costs are in £1500-£2200 range generally.
Just make sure you get one with zero resist (which here means Bosch ALP or latest gen Bosch Performance motors) so you only have to pedal when tired, on a bad surface or going uphill.
I've done about 6000km on mine without a squeak in the past 1.5 years. It is bombproof.
I commute with it, I tour with it on flat and up hills, I pick up bread from the localbakery on it and I use it as my exercise bike on quick evening fitness loops (with motor off obviously).
Search my name on YouTube for a couple of video reviews of mine if you like.
The lighter bikes (like the Orbea Gain) tend to be based on road bikes rather than what I think of 'touring' environments - which to me means a lot of off-road - rivers, canals, woods, paths of all sorts, but not pure MTB territory.
The lighter bikes with lighter motors are great for good tarmac and better for commuting on roads/good cycle paths but may struggle a bit on more robust surfaces.
Just make sure you get one with zero resist (which here means Bosch ALP or latest gen Bosch Performance motors) so you only have to pedal when tired, on a bad surface or going uphill.
I've done about 6000km on mine without a squeak in the past 1.5 years. It is bombproof.
I commute with it, I tour with it on flat and up hills, I pick up bread from the localbakery on it and I use it as my exercise bike on quick evening fitness loops (with motor off obviously).
Search my name on YouTube for a couple of video reviews of mine if you like.
The lighter bikes (like the Orbea Gain) tend to be based on road bikes rather than what I think of 'touring' environments - which to me means a lot of off-road - rivers, canals, woods, paths of all sorts, but not pure MTB territory.
The lighter bikes with lighter motors are great for good tarmac and better for commuting on roads/good cycle paths but may struggle a bit on more robust surfaces.
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You're right - most of the Orbeas are aimed at roads, but they do have a fat tyre version - the Gain D31 with simpler gearing for less grief when off-road. Probably a sensible choice if you're tackling urban canals, with glass, crud, etc.
That's just about it! Everybody has to come out of the shop to help unload.
Before being loaded onto that lorry, it has to clear Customs... and Felixstowe can really get clogged up at times. Sometimes it's far quicker to transport the uncleared goods to an "Inland Port" to expedite that clearance before onward shipping. I used to clear Taiwanese goods landed in Felixstowe through Customs in Cambridge... it was far quicker than waiting for Customs in Felixstowe and not much more expensive. I'm sure Woosh have their Customs clearance sussed though.
I have posted my Scott Sub Tour Eride 10 bike for sale on Pedelecs. It is well under your budget. I have used it all over the hills of North Wales where I live. It might be what you are after, and pedals well with no or minimal motor assistance, unlike many E Bikes these days.
Hatti decided to delay it.
We are working flat out to clear the backlog on kits, still doing mainly kits, only two thirds through the backlog.
I now have to work Saturday morning.
I only started on assembling the Caminos yesterday.
Hatti decided to delay the Ramblettas 3 weeks for us to catch up. They will be here beginning of October.
first Gran-Camino assembled in Southend:
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Ah. I restart work in Sept so it would have been have been nice to have it by them.
But it's always useful to know the expected timescale and best not to rush out stuff without the required attention .
Thanks.
I converted my Dawes touring bike with a Woosh front kit as I couldn't find a suitable dedicated touring ebike. I use mine more for commuting along canal paths but want the freedom to do some road touring too. Touring bikes seem to have sort of evolved into "gravel bikes" or "adventure bikes" so maybe a search for those might yield something you could convert. I wondered about buying a Genesis Day 20 and fitting a crank drive but what I've ended up with isn't massively different for a fraction of the cost.
Something that might be worth thinking about if you are a seaonded tourer is motor cut off, since some motors abruptly cut out at 15.5mph. My cruising speed is around 18mpg and I tried ebikes without success that all started to feel like I was cycling through treacle unless I capped the cruising speed I would normally have attained. With my XF07 the drop off is so seemless that on the flat I get to 18mpg and just stay at that even though at that speed the motor isn't actually doing anything - and it increases my range dramatically as effectively I'm only using my motor to accelerate and to go up hills. From personal trial and error I felt the Bosch Active was a worse offender than the Active Plus with regards to cut off.
Something that might be worth thinking about if you are a seaonded tourer is motor cut off, since some motors abruptly cut out at 15.5mph. My cruising speed is around 18mpg and I tried ebikes without success that all started to feel like I was cycling through treacle unless I capped the cruising speed I would normally have attained. With my XF07 the drop off is so seemless that on the flat I get to 18mpg and just stay at that even though at that speed the motor isn't actually doing anything - and it increases my range dramatically as effectively I'm only using my motor to accelerate and to go up hills. From personal trial and error I felt the Bosch Active was a worse offender than the Active Plus with regards to cut off.
Wednesday I think. We assembled quite a few of them this week.
However, I am waiting for a 7mm hole punch press for the front mudguards.
The tyres are 27.5 x 2.15 instead of 27.5 x 2.0 like I specified but that is one of the many surprises you get when you open a container. The nearly fat tyres look very impressive but leave little room at the fork's crown for the front mudguard. The only way is to deepen the slot in the front mudguard hanger so I can lift it up.
If anyone has a trick how to do that without a hole punch tool, please let me know.
What about using a template? A strip of metal will work, drill and file a slot in it, then clamp it to the mudguard and use a tool bit like in photo above.
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