February 3, 20179 yr I just spotted this for £650. It looks pretty good. 9 levels of assist is a bit unusual. The side-on photo seems to show a large LCD , but it's not clear. The rest of the bike looks pretty standard, so easy to sort out if something goes wrong. I think it'll give the Halfords Crossfire E a run for its money, especially as it uses a standard pedal sensor rather than the crossfire's special one, which may not be so robust. I'd upgrade the brakes to hydraulic for about £50, which makes it £400 cheaper. Also, it only weighs 19kg. Sports HQ participate in the cashback schemes like Quidco. They also offer 5% reward points and occasionally do flash sales, so you should be able to get it at something under £600, which makes it an absolute bargain like the original Cyclamatic. http://www.thesportshq.com/cyclamatic-cx3-pro-power-plus-alloy-frame-ebike.aspx
February 3, 20179 yr Check out the shipping to Europe... Maybe someone put in an extra 0? There's always a catch!
February 3, 20179 yr Nice bike and very good at that price. 36 volt too, unlike their earlier model. That Europe shipping price could simply be that they don't want to sell any there for some reason. Maybe waranty support difficulties or the bike is already sold there by another company and they've agreed not to compete in order to get this deal. .
February 3, 20179 yr I see there`s an even cheaper option, looks decent for the money.. Cyclamatic Power Plus CX1 Electric Mountain Bike Price £499.99 http://www.thesportshq.com/cyclamatic-power-plus-cx1-electric-mountain-bike.aspx
February 3, 20179 yr Just to add to that, when I owned one of their previous models, I had to make a warranty claim on the battery. The communication and turnaround, to get a working battery back, was pretty good. I can't fault SportsHQ's pricing, customer service or warranty claims procedure. I reckon their 20kg weight quote for a steel framed bike is a bit optimistic though Edited February 3, 20179 yr by Fordulike
February 3, 20179 yr Check out the shipping to Europe... Maybe someone put in an extra 0? I don't know what you're looking at, but the link i posted shows £3.99 to mainland UK!
February 3, 20179 yr I see there`s an even cheaper option, looks decent for the money.. Cyclamatic Power Plus CX1 Electric Mountain Bike Price £499.99 http://www.thesportshq.com/cyclamatic-power-plus-cx1-electric-mountain-bike.aspx That's the previous model. I can't see a LCD. It also has a smaller battery, but still not bad for £500.
February 3, 20179 yr The controller supplied by Whoosh with the GSM crank drive kit has 9 levels. Works well for me. Sent from my SGP311 using Tapatalk
February 3, 20179 yr I don't know what you're looking at, but the link i posted shows £3.99 to mainland UK! It was Europe at the foot we were speaking of. I suppose they mean mainland Europe: Cyclamatic CX3 Pro Power Plus Alloy Frame eBike Price £649.99 5% REWARD POINTS ON ALL ORDERS Postage Additional UK Mainland 3-5 Wrk Days £3.99 UK Next Working Day £5.99 UK Next Working Day AM £9.99 UK Saturday £9.99 Northern Ireland £4.99 Highlands and Islands £4.99 Channel Islands £9.99 Europe £1000.00 £1000.00 .
February 3, 20179 yr So bargain bucket bike is the cyclomatic, Woosh are close behind,then whisper and the current green edge offer to take us up to £1200. That's a lot of bikes for a small budget
February 3, 20179 yr D8ve, for the last 3 years, our best selling bikes are numerically the more expensive ones, I naturally make effort to bring in more top end bikes and leave the low end to Cyclamatic and Prorider.
February 3, 20179 yr The shop 150 yards from us in the same street sell Wispers. His customers rarely pop into our shop and vice versa although sometimes we see customers test ride Wispers and Wooshes up and down the same street. There are always middle of the road products that seem to compete for the same segments of the market but not over the whole range, no. This said, our prices have crept up to over £1,000. I don't like it but the strength of the dollar leaves me with little choice. Would you see a Wisper cruiser or a Wisper full-sus or a Wisper Fat Boy? Edited February 3, 20179 yr by Woosh
February 4, 20179 yr Ok then so woosh for big bear power,fat boy tyres and folders. Whisper for middle of road standard bikes, similar price and higher but more local shops . Both for good customer service.
February 4, 20179 yr Do Chinese bikes dare to get to the £1800 + market or do you need to be "European" to successfully do that. Or are European bikes so overpriced that the Chinese could not put enough kit on a bike to make it that much. Bearing in mind my bike is Hungarian ?
February 4, 20179 yr Do Chinese bikes dare to get to the £1800 + market The problem is chiefly marketing. The people who sell most bikes are the independent bike shops. If you manage to have the IBDs owners on your side, then there is no reason Chinese bikes can't have a sticker that says 'I am reassuringly expensive'. If only I can get the perception of CD bikes and torque sensor that they are superior toned down a bit, I can bring in better frames, better shocks and better wheels.
February 4, 20179 yr If only I can get the perception of CD bikes and torque sensor that they are superior toned down a bit, I can bring in better frames, better shocks and better wheels. A better bike then in other words.
February 4, 20179 yr A better bike then in other words. The reason I singled out CD bikes and torque sensor is because shops stock what sells and in turn, what sells feeds back to what shops stock. If your budget is £2k, there isn't any offering from direct vendors like Woosh, you have to either go to the shops or convert a bike, so the choice is limited: Bosch, Yamaha, Brose. They all give the same sort of ride. it's often the case of what's best for the customers. A lot of our customers have the usual troubles that come with age, knees, hips, can't lift the leg high enough, balance, oxygen etc. CD bikes with torque sensor are not as good for them as a step through bike with a strong geared hub motor, a rear rack and a full throttle.
February 4, 20179 yr The reason I singled out CD bikes and torque sensor is because shops stock what sells and in turn, what sells feeds back to what shops stock. If your budget is £2k, there isn't any offering from direct vendors like Woosh, you have to either go to the shops or convert a bike, so the choice is limited: Bosch, Yamaha, Brose. They all give the same sort of ride. it's often the case of what's best for the customers. A lot of our customers have the usual troubles that come with age, knees, hips, can't lift the leg high enough, balance, oxygen etc. CD bikes with torque sensor are not as good for them as a step through bike with a strong geared hub motor, a rear rack and a full throttle. When you say' geared hub', do you mean a two speed hub?
February 4, 20179 yr When you say' geared hub', do you mean a two speed hub? oh no, I meant the usual hub motors with built in reduction gear that we use on the woosh bikes, to be distinguished from the direct drive hub motors which are suitable for high speed ride on flat roads. Sorry for the confusing word.
February 4, 20179 yr A lot of our customers have the usual troubles that come with age, knees, hips, can't lift the leg high enough, balance, oxygen etc. CD bikes with torque sensor are not as good for them as a step through bike with a strong geared hub motor, a rear rack and a full throttle. Yesterday,I went to help a lady with one of the original Ezee bikes. She's late middle aged. After 6 years and the second battery on the Ezee, she bought a Bergmont with Bosch motor, but she can't get up hills on it. Both bikes have hub-gears, and even her husband, who is slim and fit for his age, says that he got stuck on some hills because he couldn't get started. They have very steep hills where they live. She won't use the Bergmont, instead, she bought a third battery for the Ezee. These CD bikes with torque sensors don't suit everyone. The Ezee has significantly more torque than the Bosch. I think I heard somewhere that some of the early ones had 25 amp controllers. The Ezee had a dirty connector, which was easy to sort and is understandable after 8 years of all-weather use.
February 4, 20179 yr The shop 150 yards from us in the same street sell Wispers. His customers rarely pop into our shop and vice versa although sometimes we see customers test ride Wispers and Wooshes up and down the same street. There are always middle of the road products that seem to compete for the same segments of the market but not over the whole range, no. This said, our prices have crept up to over £1,000. I don't like it but the strength of the dollar leaves me with little choice. Would you see a Wisper cruiser or a Wisper full-sus or a Wisper Fat Boy? We are currently working on bikes for the 2018/19 season. There will not be a fat boy (we have one of those already!) or full sus in our range. The fat bike we beleive is a bit of a fad and won't be around very for much longer in areas that don't have a lot of snow and sand riding. Full sus bikes are catered for so well by the mountain bike specialists that we have decided it's not our market. We are however working on a CM model and depending on the motor we finally decide on, the bike could easily be over £2000.00. We will continue to make and maintain solid reliable bikes that appeal to a wider audience. Another two Wisper 806 Torques with 575Wh batteries were ordered by our Southend dealer yesterday. It just goes to show people are prepared to pay for a good bike the location of the assembler it not critical. If you are in Southend beware of the traffic wardens, a couple of them now scoot around town on Wisper 705SEs! All the best, David
February 4, 20179 yr The Ezee has significantly more torque than the Bosch. I think I heard somewhere that some of the early ones had 25 amp controllers. Yes, although nominally 20 controllers, the earlier controllers on all Ezee models would deliver a peak of 28 amps. My 2006 Quando (geared for 16 mph max) with my 70 kilos at the time plus a bit of shopping in two large panniers would take off under power only on a 12% hill, and on a 7% would then steadily accelerate, cresting the top at over 10 mph. Normally I'd assist with pedalling of course, which was far easier than on the crank drive Lafree. .
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