Model S Plaid at Nürburgring record lap
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Who cares? In a world where national speed limits are round about 60 mph, hardly any roads are unlimited and traffic congestion is common, we have no bother getting the claimed ranges from our e-cars.
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Too right Flecc. Certain electric cars, amongst them this thing mentioned, are as archaic in their green credentials as any muscle car/ sports car. Utterly ridiculous.
Its another area where folk have been conned. An electric car can dump nearly all its stored energy in moments. Resulting in sublime performance figures but probably equivalent to 5 miles to gallon in old dinosaur ICE...
This is not the way electric cars should be going. Its so the rich and famous can virtue signal, pose and pretend they are saving the earth. They are doing the opposite.
Its another area where folk have been conned. An electric car can dump nearly all its stored energy in moments. Resulting in sublime performance figures but probably equivalent to 5 miles to gallon in old dinosaur ICE...
This is not the way electric cars should be going. Its so the rich and famous can virtue signal, pose and pretend they are saving the earth. They are doing the opposite.
more like you wont like the answer as it wont go very far going those speeds will it lol
they should stick one of them raptor engines on the roof
and my m8s gf got a electric hybrid car and says it is $hit as no hand brake cant spin the wheels and no clutch so cant drive it like a rally car round the round about.
now that is how you drive a car
In spirit I get where you're coming from. But it also start at£130k. That can buy a very great deal more fun than flying around an elaborate roundabout in germanymore like you wont like the answer as it wont go very far going those speeds will it lol
they should stick one of them raptor engines on the roof
Of course I knew what the answer would be. As Zlatan says, that car is a dinosaur.more like you wont like the answer as it wont go very far going those speeds will it lol
And far from seeing Elon Musk as a man of the future, I also see him as a dinosaur with his obsession with speed for e-cars. Having been the first with a lithium batteried e-car, it was that silly obsession that lost him that title for the practical e-car market, to Nissan who left him standing. It's only very recently that Musk has finally woken up and backtracked a bit to the Model 3, though not nearly far enough. It's still too fast, too big, too expensive and too foolishly equipped.
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thing is if i went to any car dealers for a electric car and asked them 1 simple question id not get a answer how fast does it go and how far can it go going that fast.
all it says is est range based on what? do they test the range on these things like bosch on the moon or what.
and as you say the price is stupid high and my m8 only has one as a company car and wont miss it when its gone and took nearly a year to get delivered from new and that was 50k.
but what i find funny is he does not feel safe driving it on the road lol.
all it says is est range based on what? do they test the range on these things like bosch on the moon or what.
and as you say the price is stupid high and my m8 only has one as a company car and wont miss it when its gone and took nearly a year to get delivered from new and that was 50k.
but what i find funny is he does not feel safe driving it on the road lol.
So what, no difference from an IC car. The Suzuki SX4 SZ5 petrol 4x4 I had before my e-car gave me 47 mpg driven at moderate speeds, but only 27 mpg driven flat out in the early hours driving to Dorset. That's as bad or worse than any e-car driven in those two contrasting ways.
No, they don't use th old NEDC distorting way. It's measured using WLTP and RDE which is very accurate. For example my Nissan Leaf is quoted in summer as typically 168 mile range, which i exceeded when I tested that out in mixed driving. Even now three and a half years later it's still the same, no loss. And Nissan are honest about the way it drops in cold winter weather., but that doesn't stop the Norwegians buying them as fast as they are made.
They come in many different prices and the delivery delay is due to demand outstripping supply. Thats because sensible people don't have your bigoted view of e-cars.
Bunkum, e-cars are typically the safest cars on the roads. Perhaps his fitness to drive needs retesting.
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to put an est range on a electric cars with no context to what that really means is false advertising simple as that.
and it is the same with my bike it will only get the est range bosch says if i only use the lower power modes when in reality with a dongle in turbo spinning the cranks at 120rpm id be lucky to get 20 miles out of it.
so you can either have range or top speed you cant have both atm but at the end of the day these things will take away that option and limit the speed to the area you are in.
and ill heard them round like sheep on me bike
and it is the same with my bike it will only get the est range bosch says if i only use the lower power modes when in reality with a dongle in turbo spinning the cranks at 120rpm id be lucky to get 20 miles out of it.
so you can either have range or top speed you cant have both atm but at the end of the day these things will take away that option and limit the speed to the area you are in.
and ill heard them round like sheep on me bike
But that's exactly same with any car.to put an est range on a electric cars with no context to what that really means is false advertising simple as that.
and it is the same with my bike it will only get the est range bosch says if i only use the lower power modes when in reality with a dongle in turbo spinning the cranks at 120rpm id be lucky to get 20 miles out of it.
so you can either have range or top speed you cant have both atm but at the end of the day these things will take away that option and limit the speed to the area you are in.
and ill heard them round like sheep on me bike
My Jag is quoted as top speed 134mph...
Urban economy 58 mpg... At 134 mph it would be doing 5 or 6 mpg. (guess, going on mpg on track days with other cars)
Its also quoted as 0 to 60 in 7 seconds. (which is BS, it won't) but try a few times and no chance of that 58mpg..
And dongles on pedelec(which is a contradiction, you can't put a dongle on a pedelec) . That's like saying I had my car put on Nitrous, had a remap, high lift cams and it won't do claimed mpg... Surprise, surprise.
the dongle removes the speed limit thus why i can nuke a 500w bat in less than 20 miles.
its range or speed you cant have both but at least with a petrol car a fuel pump is not that far away and a 2 min job to fill it back up.
cant wait for these electric rockets lol
its range or speed you cant have both but at least with a petrol car a fuel pump is not that far away and a 2 min job to fill it back up.
cant wait for these electric rockets lol
You really are a dinosaur!
The UK is now down to under 6,000 fuel stations from once having over 10,000.
But it now has over 25,000 public charging points with rapidly increasing numbers of them rapid and very rapid charging at up to 350 kW rate.
And like all petrolheads your thinking is behind the times. You forget that IC cars leave home with partly empty tanks, often very low. E- cars are driven away from their home charging points full right up, today's ones ready to cover from 220 to 350 miles at legally allowed speeds.
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better start building power stations then
UK fires up coal power plant as gas prices soar
the uk is mostly powerd buy dinosaurs lol
UK fires up coal power plant as gas prices soar
UK fires up coal power plant as gas prices soar
An old coal plant has had to be brought back online after a spike in the price of natural gas.
www.bbc.co.uk
the uk is mostly powerd buy dinosaurs lol
No problem, as I keep posting but it never seems to sink in with IC thinkers, e-cars charge overnight when electricity is plentiful and customers for it are few.better start building power stations then
UK fires up coal power plant as gas prices soar
UK fires up coal power plant as gas prices soar
An old coal plant has had to be brought back online after a spike in the price of natural gas.www.bbc.co.uk
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the uk is mostly powerd buy dinosaurs lol
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Not just playing Devil's advocate here flecc. Sound wave has a point... Majority of our power does still come from dead animal fuels... But whilst that is the case makes even more of a mockery of high performance electric cars. Even as a petrol head myself do think ecars max current draw should be limited. You could, if you so wished, buy a Tesla and tear about in it getting equivalent to 10mpg....
Oh,and had my second assessment (on left eye) today. Read 3 lines better than driving standard(almost 4)...which from only just passing it with glasses is quite amazing.
Asked the lady whether our brains could compensate for different sized images from either eye... Her answer...as I can remember
"Within reason. Its very normal for our eyes to see images of slightly different size and brain can and does accommodate upto perhaps a 5% difference, more than that and brain can't really cope and condition (she gave it a name) will above this figure manifest itself with other symptoms. (headaches, dizziness , lazy eye, etc etc)...
I said I, d guess my difference was about 10%..
No,she said, it was more like 12 or 13 and your brain would not compensate at such levels.???
She explained its exactly why it was important to get 2nd eye done ASAP. (3 weeks).. Much longer and you would be trying to lead a normal life, driving, reading, watching tele etc etc. It could produce other issues. On people with good eye sight to start with (ie just cataract damage) its OK to wait a while. In people with cataracts and strong prescription it's urgent we get second done..
So compromise time. We were both right... And both wrong... A bit.
Oh,and had my second assessment (on left eye) today. Read 3 lines better than driving standard(almost 4)...which from only just passing it with glasses is quite amazing.
Asked the lady whether our brains could compensate for different sized images from either eye... Her answer...as I can remember
"Within reason. Its very normal for our eyes to see images of slightly different size and brain can and does accommodate upto perhaps a 5% difference, more than that and brain can't really cope and condition (she gave it a name) will above this figure manifest itself with other symptoms. (headaches, dizziness , lazy eye, etc etc)...
I said I, d guess my difference was about 10%..
No,she said, it was more like 12 or 13 and your brain would not compensate at such levels.???
She explained its exactly why it was important to get 2nd eye done ASAP. (3 weeks).. Much longer and you would be trying to lead a normal life, driving, reading, watching tele etc etc. It could produce other issues. On people with good eye sight to start with (ie just cataract damage) its OK to wait a while. In people with cataracts and strong prescription it's urgent we get second done..
So compromise time. We were both right... And both wrong... A bit.
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well when im 65 i want one of these to zoom round tesco on id rather go out with a bang than rot away in a hospital bed.
needs 320 more bhp and a 350kww batt the size of a brief case should do it with 2 of these.
needs 320 more bhp and a 350kww batt the size of a brief case should do it with 2 of these.
No it does not !!no gas means no charging or electric for anyone burn the dinosaurs to charge the cars
My electricity supplier only uses renewable sources:
Nor does my home use any gas, as a long term environmentalist I ripped it out and got British Gas to remove the meter in 1970. That made me 55 years ahead of the present government who intend to stop gas installation in new homes from 2025.
But not mine, since with my environmental concerns I'll pay what it takes to get whatever renewables are still available. That won't be a problem anyway as I repeatedy have to explain to Soundwave. My car charges in the night when nobody else wants the stuff, other than for their electric blanket. That's why it's so much cheaper then.
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