Major incident declared at London Luton airport after huge fire breaks out
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You just can't stop with your nonsense, a diesel Range Rover fire collapsed a Liverpool multi story car park in 2017 together with some 1400 cars, and back then it was not a hybrid.Theories abound on the real identity of the car? Stories of similar fires not covered or disappearing from media sites. Stranger & stranger, but no way a diesel fire collapsed a car park. So...
Here's the link, read and learn, see the photos.
These diesel only Range Rovers have had some recalls due to the fires they've caused.
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Did you look at the picture of the car that supposedly exploded? There's no way in the world that that's a diesel fire. Diesel is a slow burning fuel. It can't explode in air like petrol or lithium batteries do. Diesel fires don't explode into life. They sart slow and set light to other stuff that burns until all the burning plastic and fabric makes enough heat to get the diesel going.
If anybody can get diesel to explode like that in air, they'll get a Nobel prize and become an instant billionaire, since we wouldn't need to refine petrol anymore.
Why not ?
A single car fire, of whatever type, and however caused, could easily spread to another car thats very close and then its chain reaction time.
That's right, especially if there are a few EVs parked next it. In fact you just need one EV to get the temperature high enough to set off the fuel tanks in the cars next to it, then you get a chain reaction that gets every car in the room.
I'm sure that there must have been a few multi-car burn-ups in my lifetime, but I can't say I can remember a whole car park going up before a few years ago. Something must have changed. Google doesn't seem to be able to find any before 2015 either.
You haven't been paying enough attention to the subject, probably because lithium batteries were not around so no scare stories about them. Around 100,000 cars catch fire every year in this country, a large proportion of them diesel, and have done for decades. Having once been in the trade I also remember the occasional repair garages that burnt out.
Don't you remember the long Vauxhall Zafira saga, repeatedly catching fire and burning out from 2005 to 2019, Vauxhall despite recalls seemingly unable to get the root of the problem.
And the Liverpool, multi-story car park burnout taking 1400 cars with it was in 2017 when the Range Rover that cause it cannot have been a hybrid. Range Rovers had a number of recalls for that problem, diesel as well as petrol.
And how about all the diesel only buses burnt out in London, a big embarrassment for a while and plenty of photos on Google. We don't buy them any more, we now only buy zero emission buses, fully battery or hydrogen fuel cell or parallel hybrid.
I don't have to tell you of all people that all batteries are potentially dangerous. Most of those 100s of annual car fires are caused by wiring faults allowing 12 volt SLA car batteries to cause them, sometime in association with fuel seepages. Mostly starting under the bonnet, diesels burn out completely just as well as petrol cars once that fuel is heated.
So as shown and proved, vehicle burn outs are very common and not specifically an EV problem. The incidence of them will be somewhat higher with battery powered EVs than with i.c., but we'll get used to that, just as we got used to all those i.c. vehicle fires. Fire Brigades are having to learn not to try to put out EV fires but just allow controlled burns.
All new transport technology is dangerous at first but gets better. I'm from a time when scheduled airliners fell out of the sky with total loss of all on board a number of times every year. Now that is so rare we mostly forget it can happen when we fly.
Likewise EV safety will improve and in fact could be much, much better now, but for the risk taking attitudes of Elon Musk prompting some other makers to take the same risks to match the performance and range of his Teslas.
The company who made mine didn't take that irresponsible risk, so I'm supremely confident I will be as unaffected in future as I am after approaching six years of driving it.
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Which I replied to with the 2017 Liverpool multi-storey fire. The Range Rover that started that wasn't a hybrid then.
Nor would it have been surrounded by EVs, since plug in cars were only 1 in 246 by the end of 2017. Now it's 1 in 24.
Just a perfectly ordinary Range Rover with help from nearly 1400 other i.c. cars totally burning out and partially collapsing that multi-storey car park.
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It's not cars that are the principle danger, but car parks. I wonder what proportion of cars destroyed by fire each year are destroyed because of a fire started in the car, or started by a fire in another car.
Quite so.
It does not take a major risk assessment to see the potential for huge fires, if you pack a lot of cars with flamable fuel on board, so close together.
Burning EVs are very bad for the climate because they make a lot of CO2. You can mitigate it by stopping 1%ers flying around in their private jets. We can't have both or the planet will explode. They explain all about that on the BBC every night. Didn't you notice that the weather map has turned from green to red. Doom is iminent. Those protesters are trying to save the lives of you and your family.
Good grief.
Must avoid pedelcers at all costs for accurate news info.
Must avoid pedelcers at all costs for accurate news info.
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Indeed, from the official Protection Report, Executive Summary on the 31st December 2017 Liverpool Multi-Storey fire:
16.42
First call to the Fire and Rescue Service (999 call from member
of public).
16.45
Local event firefighting team arrive at main entrance, under blue lights.
16.50
Fire & Rescue Service appliance in attendance at main entrance.
17.01
Six fire pumps requested.
17.08
First BA team (Alpha 1) committed from stairwell 2 into level 3.
17.40
BA crews report up to 30 vehicles involved and running fuel
fire between rows of cars.
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That was what caused the spread, streams of burning fuel running along the ground around the cars. Nothing whatsoever due to EV cars.
If an EV had caught fire there might have been no widespread fire, but of course at that date only 4 on average of the 1400 cars in the car park would have been EVs.
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He also explains the burned "diesel" f150's on transporter as actually hybrids, oops.
Also check Macmasters Battery Porsche Taycan insurance rising from 600 to £3200, ouch! Check your renewal premium, crumbs. :-(
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