Kalkhoff

[zoros]

Any observations on these as an introduction to E Biking?

 

[soundwave]

just dont get one with the impulse motors

 

[zoros]

why is that and what are the options.
Thanks

 

[soundwave]

every impulse motor fails they are not fit for purpose the bikes are fine with a bosch motor tho.

 

[zoros]

Thanks for your input guys:
I am looking at the :
Endeavour 5.B

Main priorities:

Range: No less than 30 miles out and 30 miles back.
Must cope with quite steep hills where I live.


Observations gratefully received.

Thanks in advance
Z

 

[vfr400]

When they put a B in the name, it means Bosch, which seems to be loads better than the Impulse motor.

 

[zoros]

Okay.

 

[soundwave]

you will struggle to get 60 miles out of 1 batt esp with hills but if you can charge it b4 the return trip you should just about make it.

or get a spare batt

 

[zoros]

The shop is reporting back from owners stating the advertised range is: 90 miles and the actual range comes in around 60-70 miles.
I need to chat to a Kalkhoff owner I guess.

 

[soundwave]

it will depend how fit you are and what mode you use so say in eco you might get 50 plus miles out of one charge but as soon as you start climbing hills it will use a lot more batt and esp if you use a higher mode like turbo.

the max i have got from a 500w bosch batt range wise is 48 miles

 

[zoros]

Presumably, you are able to monitor the usage rate and plan accordingly?

 

[flecc]

The shop is reporting back from owners stating the advertised range is: 90 miles and the actual range comes in around 60-70 miles.
I need to chat to a Kalkhoff owner I guess.

I doubt most owners could get 60 to 70 miles from the 500 Wh powertube battery it uses, especially with the steep hills you mention.

It depends on how much pedal effort you put in, but could be as little as 40 miles with steep hills. Powerful cyclists could get much more.
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[soundwave]

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[MarcusT]

If you stay in ECO mode, I believe 60 miles maybe be obtainable.

 

[zoros]

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[soundwave]

Whats the point of this post?>

they have 2 500w batts

 

[Fat Rat]

Whats the point of this post?>

Really nice

 

[georgehenry]

The new Bosch active line plus motor with a 500wh battery paired together on a fair few different makes of ebike seems to provide the longest range of all the crank drive motors currently available but is not the most powerful.

The good news is this battery and motor can be found together at around £1750.

When you are new to electric bikes it is easy to assume the ranges quoted by manufacturers must be accurate, but once you have owned one for a while you start to understand how many variables effect what range you personally will achieve and these include things like temperature, fitness, weight, gradients, tyres and quite a few more.

Generally the ranges quoted by manufacturers are unrealistically optimistic for very many riders.

 

[Fat Rat]

I live in a very hilly area but I do put a lot of energy into my riding and this was last Saturday on road with plus section tyres which are not very tarmac efficient so as above there's so many variables at work .

 

[zoros]

The dual battery advertised bike is £4000+, !! No wonder you get double the range, you are paying nearly twice the price for the benefit!! No contest really, considering how often you may need to travel into this extended range. Far too much money for this added luxury IMO.

I've bought now and it is a KahlKoff 3B Endeavour. Performance CS+ (540W). 70Nm torque. Should satisfly my needs 90+% of the time.

 

[Onegirlandherbike]

Any observations on these as an introduction to E Biking?

Hi I'm new to this group and have only just found your post. Did you get sorted and did you buy a Kalkhoff?

Me and my husband have Kalkhoff bikes but before I bought mine I had a Raleigh Motus which had a Bosch 40 Nm motor and a 400Wh battery and my husband's Kalkhoff has a 70 Nm impulse motor and a600 Wh battery. In August we cycled the Coast and Castles route from Edinburgh to Newcastle and on the first day we covered around 45 miles. My battery was showing only one bar left with 15 miles of quite hilly terrain to cover but my husband's still had almost half a battery left. Because of this I then bought my Kalkhoff Endeavour 5.I move (80Nm motor and 500 Wh battery) but due to the battery discharging every night by around 2 to 3% when not being used, and not being able to be fixed, I'm having it replaced with another Kalkhoff with a shimano motor.

I'd be interested to hear what you chose in the end.

Paula