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Gubbins

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Taking note of a few posts last year regarding the use of daytime lights, I now ride with 2 front facing lights which are on flashing mode all the time..
However, I still appear to be invisible......
 
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JohnCade

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Taking note of a few posts last year regarding the use of daytime lights, I now ride with 2 front facing lights which are on flashing mode all the time..
However, I still appear to be invisible......
That was a dangerous situation from the moment the car turned into the road in front of the hatchback emerging. If that had been me, seeing the red car was unsighted I would have expected him to very possibly drive out and braked in anticipation. In my car I would have slowed and sounded my horn as a warning.
 

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I suspect the car driver saw Phil, but decided to try to beat him across the junction.

Pulling into a declining gap is never a good idea, and the car driver failed to judge Phil's speed.

He's bowling along well, but a roadie could have been going as fast or faster.
 

Gubbins

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One word, or is it two? Hindsight!

I think that these "Dash Cams" are really cool if only to allow us to dissect over a couple of hours something that actually took place in only a couple of seconds. I am sometimes amazed by what I see on my films that I didn't see at the time and also how the wide angle lens tends to distort perspective.

The reality is that these incidents happen really quickly and by the time you have thought about it, its over, so you react in one way or another and that's it. End of story!

In this case I had seen this car and had a sort of inclination/intuition that it might pull out so was somewhat prepared, and by placing my bike well to the right (I am turning right anyway a few yards later) I am deliberately taking an aggressive line rather than a defensive one and I allowed the bike to run on a bit more than perhaps I should, but I am confident with the machine, the brakes are fantastic and I felt in control of this situation at all times .
This young driver hopefully will have had a bit of a fright and may in the future take a bit more care and look first.

As an aside, I am more than happy to read other members dissections of my posts both good and bad so please feel free to add your 2 peneth....
 
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JohnCade

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One word, or is it two? Hindsight!

I think that these "Dash Cams" are really cool if only to allow us to dissect over a couple of hours something that actually took place in only a couple of seconds. I am sometimes amazed by what I see on my films that I didn't see at the time and also how the wide angle lens tends to distort perspective.

The reality is that these incidents happen really quickly and by the time you have thought about it, its over, so you react in one way or another and that's it. End of story!

In this case I had seen this car and had a sort of inclination/intuition that it might pull out so was somewhat prepared, and by placing my bike well to the right (I am turning right anyway a few yards later) I am deliberately taking an aggressive line rather than a defensive one and I allowed the bike to run on a bit more than perhaps I should, but I am confident with the machine, the brakes are fantastic and I felt in control of this situation at all times .
This young driver hopefully will have had a bit of a fright and may in the future take a bit more care and look first.

As an aside, I am more than happy to read other members dissections of my posts both good and bad so please feel free to add your 2 peneth....
Sorry but it isn't hindsight at all. When I watched it I knew he was going to drive out in front of you. It flashed alarms as the car turned across him and obscured his view. Just as situations like that do when I'm driving or riding. Over fifty years of driving cars and trucks, riding motorbikes, and push bikes in all conditions and several countries, and sometimes as part of my job should give you a very good sense for danger.

I want to see the other driver look right at me before I believe he isn't going to drive out in front of me; and I still don't trust him then. They often wonder why I give them a little peep of the horn when they're gazing the other way.
 

Gubbins

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Sorry it but it isn't hindsight at all. When I watched it I knew he was going to drive out in front of you. It flashed alarm bells as the car turned across him and obscured his view. Just as situations like that do when I'm driving or riding. Over fifty years of driving cars and trucks, riding motorbikes, and push bikes in all conditions and several countries, and sometimes as part of my job should give you a very good sense for danger.

I want to see the other driver look right at me before I believe he isn't going to drive out in front of me; and I still don't trust him then. They other wonder why I give them a little peep of the horn when they're gazing the other way.
To be fair, Hindsight was a reference to looking back and dissecting what went wrong.... very easy to do, and yes, at the end he was looking right at me!!

With regard to tooting at everyone who may or may not have seen me.. well, I have never been a horn blower, in fact in I have never tooted my current car, in 18 months.. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing..
 

JohnCade

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To be fair, Hindsight was a reference to looking back and dissecting what went wrong.... very easy to do, and yes, at the end he was looking right at me!!

With regard to tooting at everyone who may or may not have seen me.. well, I have never been a horn blower, in fact in I have never tooted my current car, in 18 months.. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing..
Where I live now there are lots of narrow lanes with blind bends and I always give a good toot as I approach. The horn is meant to be solely for warning other traffic. But so many drivers think it's for saying goodbye to their friends, or expressing annoyance with another road user. But it's guaranteed that if you do warn someone who is driving out in front of you without looking, the dick will give you an angry blast in return.

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Gubbins

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LOL,
I hear you..
Around here a loud blast on the horn could be a precursor to a fight.. Musically though the attention is drawn to the annoyed blower rather than the indescressor. (is that even a word?) If you drive through Bradford tooting, keep the doors locked.. (only joking really)
 

Gubbins

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Sorry but it isn't hindsight at all. When I watched it I knew he was going to drive out in front of you. It flashed alarms as the car turned across him and obscured his view. Just as situations like that do when I'm driving or riding. Over fifty years of driving cars and trucks, riding motorbikes, and push bikes in all conditions and several countries, and sometimes as part of my job should give you a very good sense for danger.

I want to see the other driver look right at me before I believe he isn't going to drive out in front of me; and I still don't trust him then. They often wonder why I give them a little peep of the horn when they're gazing the other way.
Hey John, how would you analyse this one? I saw him coming up behind in my helmet mirror, and I am in the cycle lane.. note the indication to turn left..
 

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You know it's going to be a bad day when following a gang of Hells Angels and your horn won't stop tooting.
 
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jonathan75

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When I read about this sort of thing it makes me think the only solution is to have very very bright lights on during the day, even if they do leave marks on the retinas of oncoming drivers.
 

Gubbins

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When I read about this sort of thing it makes me think the only solution is to have very very bright lights on during the day, even if they do leave marks on the retinas of oncoming drivers.
I have a pair of hope one visions on the forks one at each side.. Very bright rear flasher on the rack and a rear flasher on my helmet.. It doesn't seem to help much!
 

jonathan75

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I have a pair of hope one visions on the forks one at each side.. Very bright rear flasher on the rack and a rear flasher on my helmet.. It doesn't seem to help much!
Oh dear that's not encouraging :-( I was thinking of one of the motorbike-type dazzlers for unlit Chinese roads which Banggood seems to sell, thinking maybe I can bore some sense into dozy roadusers' brains with the sheer force of the light output :rolleyes:
 
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Oh dear that's not encouraging :-( I was thinking of one of the motorbike-type dazzlers for unlit Chinese roads which Banggood seems to sell, thinking maybe I can bore some sense into dozy roadusers' brains with the sheer force of the light output :rolleyes:
I have one of those on the front of my helmet, but it is so bright I dare not use it on the road. I fear that sooner or later the police might have something to say about the ultra bright lights.. My wife says I look like a flying saucer at night..
 
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jonathan75

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I have one of those on the front of my helmet, but it is so bright I dare not use it on the road. I fear that sooner or later the police might have something to say about the ultra bright lights.. My wife says I look like a flying saucer at night..
Ha, I can picture it! Do you think it's capable of being a genuine hazard to someone else? If so it sounds like you're being wise. Otherwise I'm thinking what's not to like ;-)